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  • waving hi ..
    by dean 5/3/2011 8:37:48 PM

  • @dean hi hang on a min got something to show you
    by elainekirk 5/3/2011 8:44:35 PM

  • ok elaine..
    by dean 5/3/2011 8:47:06 PM

  • I hope Nancy had fun with the video I left..
    by dean 5/3/2011 8:47:15 PM

  • gb.cri.cn
    This is from the Chinese press I cannot get the page to translate but the translated
    caption says-
    April 14, 2011 news, Japan's Tokyo Electric Power Company recently announced the explosion and nuclear accident in the Fukushima nuclear power plant the latest photos. Recent testing showed that the radiation level around the Fukushima nuclear power plant did not change significantly, Tokyo Electric Power Company is developing a detailed plan to resolve the nuclear crisis.
    big5.cri.cn
    And we thought we were being kept in the dark!!!!

    by elainekirk via Gb.cri.cn 5/3/2011 8:47:46 PM

  • @dean I think she is having fun with it yes:)
    by elainekirk 5/3/2011 8:53:03 PM

  • what plant was this?
    by dean 5/3/2011 8:56:13 PM

  • @dean It has to be daichi surely
    by elainekirk 5/3/2011 8:57:41 PM

  • I was just trying to determine what was happening on that date?
    by dean 5/3/2011 8:58:51 PM

  • and talisker.. it would be very very nice if you could provide some insight to what they are saying in the video
    by dean 5/3/2011 8:59:40 PM

  • @dean not much as far as the Chinese people know
    by elainekirk 5/3/2011 9:00:56 PM

  • @elainekirk Hey wow, they managed to find the ONE angle there is that it doesn't look that bad.
    by radioguy 5/3/2011 9:01:22 PM

  • @radioguy I am flabbergasted
    by elainekirk 5/3/2011 9:03:37 PM

  • don't know what to think elaine... that steam reminds me of one thing.. coffee time.. he he
    by dean 5/3/2011 9:06:55 PM

  • The Chinese post makes complete sense..China is close by, so they do not want to worry people...also China is communist and severly censors their media / internet usage...never question a dicatorship country...keep news dim and stupid, keep people numb and uninformed.
    by Veen Oui 5/3/2011 9:10:17 PM

  • by dean 5/3/2011 9:13:19 PM

  • www.nextgenerationnuclearplant.com next generation nuclear plants.. also produce hydrogen for use in vehicles
    by dean 5/3/2011 9:14:59 PM

  • I like some of those designs as well. The HTR-10 and HTR-PM. "In 2004, the small HTR-10 reactor was subject to an extreme test of its safety when the helium circulator was deliberately shut off without the reactor being shut down. The temperature increased steadily, but the physics of the fuel meant that the reaction progressively diminished and eventually died away over three hours." www.world-nuclear.org
    by Ralph Unger 5/3/2011 9:18:00 PM

  • Hours, not years as these BWR plants require.
    by Ralph Unger 5/3/2011 9:19:15 PM

  • Hello all -- when did the live video feed get officially pulled? The ba***rds... www.youtube.com
    by bojack54 5/3/2011 9:19:37 PM

  • A few hours before dawn JST, I am hoping it is just because they are replacing the IR cam with a visible light one.
    by Ralph Unger 5/3/2011 9:20:46 PM

  • hey bo how you doing
    by dean 5/3/2011 9:24:12 PM

  • Good here, hey is the SPEEDI data published in English anywhere?
    by bojack54 5/3/2011 9:29:37 PM

  • @Askwhy @dean I am just writing a context translation from a friend, not accurate to word. I will keep it to the key things mentioned, there is no technical details mentioned anyway, but it is very rich picture-wise. I think there is not an awful lot said that we don't already know about. Please correct/add if something is wrong or missing.

    The guy visiting the plant is Aoyama Shigeharu from the Nuclear Safety Commission in Japan and he is allowed to enter at this stage, as several other specialists. At first he goes to the emergency control center, at the entrance is the decontamination facility and only specifically authorized staff are allowed to open the doors and allow people in and out.

    The people working are mostly the staff of the NPP and range from 20 yrs old to pensioners, some of which have just decided to volunteer, devoted to end the disaster.

    He talks to Mr. Yoshida who is the Tepco chief engineer and as far as I can tell, he is the one running the show from the tech point of view. They walk upstairs in the control room, in this entire building the air is filtered and radiation is blocked fully (no details given). It was initially used for workers to sleep at the beginning of the disaster but because they were too many, they then did another center at the Daini NPP. They have around 600 people working in total. During the night there are approximately 240~250 people working at the control room.

    They take him for a tour, initially between #2 and #3. The Tepco employees with him are not allowed to step out of the vehicle, because they will max their radiation exposure limit. He is ok to step out as he only stays there for a short time. Also they are not stopping near #3 because the radiation is obviously too high. They move around #4 and further out where it shows the special resin prepared and sprayed on the ground (is that guy's face uncovered? foo...). They then move to the side facing the sea -turbines- showing all the wreck from the massive tsunami (nothing important mentioned that cannot be seen). The place they stop for a little is one of the trenches full of super radioactive water and is covered by massive metal slabs, while they say they are trying to remove it.

    The vid moves back to Mr. Yoshida, the chief engineer, where he says 1-2-3 are getting stable and his main concern is #2 because of the large volume of contaminated water that needs to be removed. The water is mainly concentrated from the tsunami that has leaked into the plant and then got contaminated, but the process has already started and they are storing it in special tanks. He makes a strong point that if there is another earthquake followed by a tsunami, that would mean "the end". He says that Tepco is highly bureaucratic and he had to make a serious argument in order to convince them to focus on building a new "wall" to prevent this in case it happens. This process has now been approved and progressing rapidly. As a chief engineer his abilities are limited to a certain extend and therefore he would have not been able to do all this without receiving a lot of help from all over Japan, but also people from all over the world, participating in containing the disaster.

    The vid moves back in the studio showing Aoyama Shigeharu. He says that specialists are now allowed to enter the site and this means the situation is relatively stable. Then he just explains where he went and where he walked out of the car on the plant miniature. He could also see inside the buildings and while looking at the ramble he felt that steel structures were damaged so badly by the tsunami as if they were candies. His impression is clearly that the entire disaster is happening due to human error and bad handling, since the reactor structures were intact after the tsunami.

    He points at the emergency control center and emphasizes that people come in and out following very strict instruction to the letter and they make no mistakes. He greatly admires the incredible morale and strength of the people working there, while he says their "eyes look different" than an ordinary person. Also, he admires chief Yoshida who appears to understand the criticality of the situation very well and is doing everything humanly possible to contain the disaster.
    by talisker 5/3/2011 9:34:34 PM

  • not sure about that bo
    by dean 5/3/2011 9:36:09 PM

  • This is an English link.But the data seems sparse. www.bousai.ne.jp
    by Ralph Unger 5/3/2011 9:40:24 PM

  • ty very much talisker for the information .. it's much appreciated
    by dean 5/3/2011 9:40:34 PM

  • Here is where I found it, it looks like much data may be found from here. www.huffingtonpost.com
    by Ralph Unger 5/3/2011 9:42:04 PM

  • @dean you are welcome
    by talisker 5/3/2011 9:42:19 PM

  • @Talisker thank you !! is it ok to copy it ?
    by elainekirk 5/3/2011 9:43:27 PM

  • talisker.. I ran on to that video just by mistake really.. but.. any other videos that you see which would give us different angles or new information on the facilities would be appreciated..
    by dean 5/3/2011 9:44:06 PM

  • @elainekirk sure, it's just a quick translation through a friend, so feel free to amend it or run it by anyone else who speaks Japanese.
    by talisker 5/3/2011 9:46:51 PM

  • @dean I will definitely let you know if I come across something interesting
    by talisker 5/3/2011 9:47:58 PM

  • @Tal could you verify that the machine in my earlier post is actually the air cleaner? news.tbs.co.jp
    by Ralph Unger 5/3/2011 9:48:01 PM

  • @Ralph Unger I will send it through and get back to you
    by talisker 5/3/2011 9:50:58 PM

  • @talisker just catching up on the past hour. That was an excellent description -- exactly the sort of context that was needed. Thank you!
    by Askwhy 5/3/2011 9:51:55 PM

  • Tyvm Tal :-) It is a short video.
    by Ralph Unger 5/3/2011 9:52:02 PM

  • @talisker Thanks for the descritpion of the Video.much appreciated 1
    by Veen Oui 5/3/2011 9:57:50 PM

  • Looks like the cam may be back up!!!!
    by Ralph Unger 5/3/2011 10:00:14 PM

  • by Ralph Unger edited by elainekirk 5/3/2011 10:00:30 PM

  • @Ralph Unger YOU ROCK it's BAAAAAAACK
    by Veen Oui 5/3/2011 10:01:44 PM

  • Youtube seems glitched, but the link to TBS seems to be working.
    by Ralph Unger 5/3/2011 10:02:17 PM

  • @MISSY,..is the stewam you're seeing the same as on Ralph's link ?
    by Veen Oui 5/3/2011 10:03:14 PM

  • Youtube looks to be up now as well.
    by Ralph Unger 5/3/2011 10:05:25 PM

  • News Flash! Tepco reveal latest remote control vehicle translate.google.com

    by elainekirk 5/3/2011 10:05:56 PM

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