Japan Earthquake

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@scilla it isnt as though there is a large area they can clean there are more partitions, stairs, conduits it is a maze of mazes there is no way I can see that you could clear that with a glorified hoover
by elainekirk 5/4/2011 12:22:20 AM

@Scilla And with debris still there I cannot see how it helps that much with the reduction of the radiation at the site.
by Ralph Unger 5/4/2011 12:23:07 AM

@elainekirk I wonder if you could fix my pin. There's two apostropes not right. One is dangling and the other should go before 'City' instead of after.
by Jim Carver 5/4/2011 12:24:36 AM

If it is radioactive air from the reactors, it will be replaced as more air leaks, if it is from debris, they are still there, I have no clue why they are trying to clean the air.
by Ralph Unger 5/4/2011 12:25:52 AM

I just read this one (posted previously). They expect to die within weeks or months. Yet people are signing on. www.dailymail.co.uk
by Scilla 5/4/2011 12:27:08 AM

@Ralph Unger. That's what I was thinking, too. Thought maybe I was missing something or being overly pessimistic, which actually doesn't seem possible in this scenario.
by Scilla 5/4/2011 12:29:30 AM

@Nancy It could be bentonite. But I suspect it's something called gunite. It's the concrete they spray through hoses for swimming pools.
by marie rich 5/4/2011 12:29:55 AM

At the Crossing Europe film festival Michael Madsen's documentary on nuclear waste storage, "Into Eternity", won the "Award European Documentary", which is sponsored by the Austrian national broadcaster ORF. Which also means that the film might reach a wider audience, because it will be screened on ORF too and hopefully raise awareness of the implications of nuclear energy. /freddy/
by freddy 5/4/2011 12:30:18 AM

@Ralph Unger I think it partially depends on how they are moving the air and what the exact source of the radiation is. Pulling in fresh air and filtering coming in and going out they might be able to clean the air enough to lower air levels. But if they are just dragging that air over a massively emitting source it might not help much. I wonder if some of the areas in question had limited air flow thus a build up? One thing that stuck out in my mind today is the rough translation of the video conversation of that video. The head technical guy commented how he really had to make a major technical case about the tsunami wall to get his way with the bureaucrats at TEPCO calling the shots. I think his comment confirms what we already knew. There are technical people with the ability to act but they are still being hamstrung by corporate pencil pushers and execs.
by Nancy 5/4/2011 12:30:48 AM

Bad sign Scilla, I am an optimist. :-) But maybe that just mean I am sure that things can go wrong.
by Ralph Unger 5/4/2011 12:31:05 AM

If the water at you feet is radioactive , does the air even matter?
by Ralph Unger 5/4/2011 12:32:07 AM

Teppycam shows nice sunlit shot - TBS cam is still grey and no picture
by Nancy 5/4/2011 12:32:26 AM

Maybe they should just try taking the roof off. Oh, wait. That's already done.
by Scilla 5/4/2011 12:32:44 AM

Does the "r" key work on this thing? English is actually my first language.
by Ralph Unger 5/4/2011 12:33:20 AM

The TBS cam is up in the mountains, I guess it is above the clouds at this time.
by Ralph Unger 5/4/2011 12:35:45 AM

I don't see any clouds at all on the Tepcam though.
by Ralph Unger 5/4/2011 12:36:51 AM

I think tepco have no idea what to do but because of the law in Japan their lawyers are saying 'don't act on advice wait until you are ordered to do something because then we can delegate financial responsibility' meanwhile Japan gov are being told be their legal advisors 'don't give orders just offer advice because once you make an order you are accepting some responsibility' meanwhile.....
by elainekirk 5/4/2011 12:38:12 AM

I cleared a post from mod to the board and it hasn't appeared, if the author would like to try again :)
by elainekirk 5/4/2011 12:47:56 AM

@elainekirk Yes, lawyers worrying about lawsuits, technical experts with their hands tied. So the lawyers need to be the ones sued or held criminally liable for putting more lives at risk by playing CYA games.
by Nancy 5/4/2011 12:52:50 AM

news.tbs.co.jp or www.youtube.com
by Ralph Unger edited by elainekirk 5/4/2011 12:53:56 AM

rats, I get a cannot play on mobile message, time to try another app
by Markfm 5/4/2011 12:55:49 AM

Try clicking it more then once with the TBS link.
by Ralph Unger 5/4/2011 12:56:18 AM

Steady small streams from 3 and 4, put the puffing from #2 worries me.
by Ralph Unger 5/4/2011 1:02:55 AM

2 has a chimney effect from mostly intact roof so it's hard to compare, imo
by marie rich 5/4/2011 1:04:27 AM

Good point, but that sure is a lot of steam to appear and then quit. We are talking about thousands of cubic fee
by Ralph Unger 5/4/2011 1:05:54 AM

Figuring out the water level in the reactor will necessitate a work team entering the building, but first it must be cleared of most of the radioactive air. To achieve this, a team will install four ambient air filtration systems in a passageway near the double doors or airlock of the reactor building. Each device, supplied byc The Japan Environment Research Company, will be powered by temporarcy diesel generators and clean the circulating air via at a rate of 1680 cubic meters per hour. The company said that the workers installing the equipment will be limited to being in the building for ten minutes at a time, because of the high radiation levels.
A TEPCO official explained during a press briefing that they planned “to reduce the density of air contamination in the building by about 95 percent.” The workers could start installing the devices this Thursday.
spectrum.ieee.org
by elainekirk 5/4/2011 1:07:14 AM

What would we be seeing if that steam was going onshore?
by Ralph Unger 5/4/2011 1:09:09 AM

#2 will cool down when it explodes I guess. "Blast may have helped cool rods" www.yomiuri.co.jp
by Ralph Unger 5/4/2011 1:13:57 AM

@Ralph I wonder if the direction of the steam is an optical illusion.... It may only seem to be going out to sea (NE) and actually going NW, more towards the camera in the Mts.
by carabnr 5/4/2011 1:17:49 AM

I had noticed the big puffs of steam or smoke show up later in the day JST. It will be interesting to see if they show up again today with the new camera.
by Nancy 5/4/2011 1:28:25 AM