Japan Earthquake | Page 991
Rob, what I described is supposed to be the entire process. The devil is in the details of how long it will take to effect any needed repairs to pipes/valves. By Sunday they hope, if the air filtration has worked, to begin to actually have people move within the #1 building, checking for radiation hot spots, then assessing the pipes.by Markfm 5/5/2011 8:10:19 PM
@wtm : that is exactly my point. if you have a breach, you would expect 1 atm pressure. if corium seals the breach and then slowly drops out, then you would get a slight vakuum in the core.by Edano 5/5/2011 8:10:55 PM
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@wtm It may just me cooling The Blob by then.by Rob in SF 5/5/2011 8:11:20 PM
@MarkFM, if they can get #1 under control that would be one less that they have to continue to scramble for !!!by wtm 5/5/2011 8:11:41 PM- It really is a ridiculous image, just blown open NPP bldgs steaming away...
www.youtube.comby Rob in SF 5/5/2011 8:14:09 PM - #2 is venting like mad from 10 minutes agoby estacion 5/5/2011 8:14:58 PM
Holey moley. Just got off the phone. Looks like Rome burning!by marie rich 5/5/2011 8:15:44 PM- No. 2 does look angry this morning.by Rob in SF 5/5/2011 8:15:55 PM
- i cannot see anything !by Edano 5/5/2011 8:16:07 PM
- Edano, I stand corrected -- #3 pressures are indeed a pretty decent level of vacuum.by Markfm 5/5/2011 8:16:17 PM
- @Edano, that is what I think is happening, at first, after the explosions, the S/C and D/W were both around outside air pressure, then have slowly changed now. I think you are right and that the corium is continuing to melt and drop down, causing that vacuum. They don't seem to be able to raise the water level higher than what they have been. Have to continue to wonder about the meltdown time line as to the time it is going to take to melt though the D/W, as it seems that the corium there is still very active after all this time ???by wtm 5/5/2011 8:16:41 PM
- Looks like the SFP areas in #3 & 4by wtm 5/5/2011 8:17:58 PM
lower pressure is an indication that it is flowing hard, Bernoulli's principle.by Lethbridgean 5/5/2011 8:17:59 PM- @Edano Try reloading, or maybe a different browser?by Rob in SF 5/5/2011 8:18:56 PM
- @Rob in SF : i always get "not available".by Edano 5/5/2011 8:19:26 PM
@all While interesting suppositions, it could be explained more believably by faulty sensors.by Jim Carver 5/5/2011 8:19:31 PM- Here comes the fawwwwwwwwwg.by Rob in SF 5/5/2011 8:19:55 PM
- @Jim Carver - or real physics. Read Bernoulli's law. en.wikipedia.org's_principleby Lethbridgean 5/5/2011 8:20:48 PM
- @Edano, what browser you using ?by wtm 5/5/2011 8:21:22 PM
- Don't have to...by Jim Carver 5/5/2011 8:21:23 PM
- @Edano That's odd. I think some ISPs/backbones restrict live feeds due to antiquated bandwidth problems.by Rob in SF 5/5/2011 8:21:35 PM
- @wtm ff and ieby Edano 5/5/2011 8:21:42 PM
- Are you belittling my input again?by Jim Carver 5/5/2011 8:21:52 PM
- Jim -- likely correct, but that makes this even more a game of blind man's bluff. That's why, I'm sure, TEPCO said an early action on #1 is verifying that the unit's RPV WL and containment pressure sensors are working correctly.by Markfm 5/5/2011 8:22:00 PM
- @Edabo, using FF here, and have no problems getting it back in the states.by wtm 5/5/2011 8:22:13 PM
- They don't want to start really flooding things if they have no clue what the WL and pressure are.by Markfm 5/5/2011 8:22:24 PM
- @Jim Carver - just dropping logic bombs on your arguement.by Lethbridgean 5/5/2011 8:23:04 PM
- i click on play and get "not available".by Edano 5/5/2011 8:23:06 PM
- @Edano, might be a FF plugin missing !by wtm 5/5/2011 8:23:48 PM
- @Jim Carver I thought the belittlement theory was settled previously in quorum.by Rob in SF 5/5/2011 8:23:57 PM
@Edano Yesterday someone in Germany had the same problem and resolved it by changing their DNS server - try a US one.by es 5/5/2011 8:24:31 PM- @Markfm Seems like they like to have it both ways--when it suits them. But under these conditions it seems more likely that equipment is malfunctioning than corium on the floorium. @Rob fawgggggg to you too.by Jim Carver 5/5/2011 8:24:51 PM
- Correct. 3 is emitting lots of steam, which means there has to be pressure in there, things getting forced out.by Markfm 5/5/2011 8:26:05 PM
- This could also be a coordinated vent of those units, just enough light to see what they are doing, but not enough light for everyone else to see what they are doing. On the TEPCO cam, can't see it happening, on the TBS cam it is visible.by wtm 5/5/2011 8:26:27 PM
- No other logical source for the steam than the water being pushed into the RPV. With #3 temps, and the increased water flow, there must be pressure.by Markfm 5/5/2011 8:27:09 PM
For those that need it. Can't get any more simpler than this.
by Lethbridgean 5/5/2011 8:27:41 PM- @es : how do i change my dns server pls ?by Edano 5/5/2011 8:27:56 PM
- @wtm I bet they're pretty aware of the JNN live feed cam, and not happy about it.by Rob in SF 5/5/2011 8:27:59 PM
- @Markfm What about #3 spf? Couldn't that be steaming?by marie rich 5/5/2011 8:28:13 PM
- @Edano Ask for a new address to be assigned automagically...by Rob in SF 5/5/2011 8:28:30 PM
- @Edano Contact your ISP perhaps...by Rob in SF 5/5/2011 8:31:12 PM
- @Rob in SF : no, they won'give me a foreign adress. will try a shield or a proxy now.by Edano 5/5/2011 8:32:01 PM
- In XP -> Network Connections -> right click for connection properties -> select Internet Protocol -> Propertiesby es 5/5/2011 8:32:06 PM
- i made it using "Hotspot Shield 1.571" !by Edano 5/5/2011 8:37:47 PM
- @Marie -- Yes, #3 SFP could indeed be steaming. I still expect the RPV, though, to have real, positive, pressure, just due to the amount of water going in and its temperature.by Markfm 5/5/2011 8:37:52 PM
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