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@dean You've gotta go from a massive producer to a massive consumer pretty quickly and what do you bet that the crew didn't train for this adequately?by Jim 5/10/2011 10:15:47 PM
In the 1980's, most plants were required to add additional nonsafety-related diesel generators to comply with the Station Blackout Rule (10CFR 50.63).by dean 5/10/2011 10:16:27 PM
@dean seeing how they did or didnot work that would be a good start.... DEAN.. also remember if I am correct Unit #1 was to be decommissioned in April...(this I would have to check unless you know... but they won't put much money in a unit comming off line unless they have to.... so unlikely that they had brand new onesby fitter 5/10/2011 10:17:27 PM- I was looking at some training scenarios on the BWR SIMULATOR and didn't see one for that.. although they do have one for station blackout but.. not total lossby dean 5/10/2011 10:17:34 PM
- I doubt it Fitter... it is possible that those old 70's vintage reactors have a difficult time getting spare parts. .by dean 5/10/2011 10:18:22 PM
Fitter, pretty sure they were filing a 20 year service extensionby Markfm 5/10/2011 10:19:06 PM- www.nrc.gov
NRC DOCUMENT FOR LOSS OF A/C POWERby dean 5/10/2011 10:19:28 PM - Paperwork already in processby Markfm 5/10/2011 10:19:35 PM
- @Markfm I think they were a shoe-in for 10.by Jim 5/10/2011 10:20:17 PM
- @ dean back in the beginning of march (mid-march) there is a report (may be gone of the web... ) that they were granted an extention on some inspections, thoiugth it had something to do with Deisels or cooling water DO NOT remember what, just remember thinking thats the one they should have the papaer work on,,,by fitter 5/10/2011 10:20:42 PM
@Markfm I think I read something that they were considering applying to run MOX in #1. They put the new shroud in within the last 2 years. Elaine might maybe know about the MOX consideration?by Nancy 5/10/2011 10:20:56 PM- Absolutely, solid as the titanicby Markfm 5/10/2011 10:20:57 PM
In this report Dr. Magdi Ragheb discusses the Daiichi blackout in useful detail and states that, "Fukushima 1, which was designed by General Electric and entered commercial service in 1971, was designed to function for 4-8 hours under natural circulation cooling without emergency diesel generators. (p.42, netfiles.uiuc.edu )by es 5/10/2011 10:22:09 PM- Quite possible on mox. Three was their poster child for how safe and efficient the evolution is.by Markfm 5/10/2011 10:22:40 PM
Interupting briefly in Japan Nuclear Safety Inspector which inspects license holder’s compliance with the Operational Safety Program is site resident - in other words the 'inspector' is an integral part of day to day life at the plant - hmm real independence there then.
from a download happy to mail it to anybody who wants very large doc re international scrutiny of Japan's oversight of their npp'sby elainekirk 5/10/2011 10:23:20 PM- that is a good report es and one I'm using and have posted up aboveby dean 5/10/2011 10:24:06 PM
- I thought us is similar, onsite nrc personby Markfm 5/10/2011 10:24:41 PM
- waving my hand I want it elaine.. can you send to my gmail.comby dean 5/10/2011 10:24:46 PM
- @dean Ah, didn't see the pin, sorry for the duplication.by es 5/10/2011 10:24:50 PM
- @es idk, es, design and implementation are two different things here.by Jim 5/10/2011 10:24:54 PM
- no problem es.. it's good to read so you can add in ..by dean 5/10/2011 10:25:11 PM
- Just saw an article about local npp, pretty sure it mentioned it.by Markfm 5/10/2011 10:25:33 PM
- I think I was reading somewhere .. where instead of issuing a 20 year life extension they would go year by year indefinately as long as the annual inspection passes.. new twistby dean 5/10/2011 10:25:57 PM
- markfm that's the norm now.. after TMI also they moved one of the engineers to a position of shift technical advisorby dean 5/10/2011 10:26:43 PM
- Think next inspection will be a tough oneby Markfm 5/10/2011 10:26:46 PM
- @Elaine, do you remember something about possible application to run MOX in #1?by Nancy 5/10/2011 10:27:01 PM
- @dean read same article interperted smae way deanby fitter 5/10/2011 10:27:04 PM
- lol markfm.. inspector up there scratchin his head.. hey.. you got some light bulbs missing up thereby dean 5/10/2011 10:27:16 PM
- Shifted to natural lightby Markfm 5/10/2011 10:27:49 PM
- moon light..by dean 5/10/2011 10:28:02 PM
- save power.. run with natural light.. it's green lightby dean 5/10/2011 10:28:18 PM
- More like moonshineby Markfm 5/10/2011 10:28:27 PM
- or blue glow in their caseby dean 5/10/2011 10:28:30 PM
- @dean the instrumentation should be in a "fail safe" mode with loss to control air or elkectricby fitter 5/10/2011 10:28:33 PM
- @dean They do that with older aircraft also. Until the FAA just says--that's it. But, in this case (with reactors) they don't know when to quit. Literally and figuratively.by Jim 5/10/2011 10:28:43 PM
- I better go for now.. and eat.. be back soon allby dean 5/10/2011 10:28:47 PM
Saying Maorningand seeing if the gremlin is still playing nice with me...........by Angie 5/10/2011 10:29:05 PM- yep fitter..by dean 5/10/2011 10:29:12 PM
- Tepco-speak: cerenkov glow = back up lightingby Nancy 5/10/2011 10:30:24 PM
- @Nancy hahaby Jim 5/10/2011 10:30:51 PM
- "Don't go towards the light"by Markfm 5/10/2011 10:31:19 PM
- @Nancy just passed something that may be relevant I will back track as soon as I canby elainekirk 5/10/2011 10:32:10 PM
- backup generator = museum pieceby Jim 5/10/2011 10:35:02 PM
- @Markfm I keep coming up with potential photoshops but they would be in bad taste. Your not helping. :-)by Nancy 5/10/2011 10:36:34 PM
- Has anyone been checking NHK, Kyodo etc daily to see if they actually put out anything of use?by Nancy 5/10/2011 10:38:55 PM
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