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  • Greenpeace did do rad measurements in Iitate in the early days of the crisis, before that area was belatedly evacuated www.panorientnews.com
    by hudebnik 5/17/2011 11:01:16 AM

  • @Edano Cool, I'll have something to do when I get back from work. Dig up
    the contaminated water story.
    by Pedro Jesus 5/17/2011 11:01:23 AM

  • @hudebnik Ah, I knew it! Well done.
    by Pedro Jesus 5/17/2011 11:02:00 AM

  • @hudebnik thx www.tepco.co.jp #3 does not seam stable at all in May
    by Edano 5/17/2011 11:06:54 AM

  • @RBeaner the smashed door pic?
    by Nancy 5/17/2011 11:07:00 AM

  • by Edano 5/17/2011 11:08:36 AM

  • @Edano - yes, fascinating and VERY revealing. #3 seems to have had its first crisis in mid April, when the second drywell sensor failed. Then a bigger (ongoing?) crisis from about May 3. These readings are pure gold.
    by hudebnik 5/17/2011 11:13:45 AM


  • Stat s RPV temperature bolts
    S lower body temperature RPV Flange
    S RPV Flange body
    Low seal RPV s F
    Noss dollar water temperature N4B
    RPV Upper Head Bottom
    2-86A main steam isolation valve leakage
    Off temperature
    2-71D relief safety valve leakage
    2-71F relief safety valve leakage
    Lower temperature pressure vessel
    D / W HVH return temperature
    S / C A pool water temperature
    S / C B pool water temperature
    by hudebnik 5/17/2011 11:14:13 AM

  • Those are the Google tx of the various monitring points on the right of each PDF
    by hudebnik 5/17/2011 11:14:50 AM

  • in fact, #3 temps look scary, chaotic.
    by Edano 5/17/2011 11:15:47 AM

  • If you ever wanted (conspiracy theory) proof that Tepco is monitoring us, the historic water level readings from 11 March have disappeared from the Tepco website, it now only shows from 11 MAY! Luckily I had a premonition and have downloaded them and sent them to Dean.
    by hudebnik 5/17/2011 11:20:35 AM

  • Bet the temp data goes the same way...
    by hudebnik 5/17/2011 11:21:13 AM

  • i get a continuous error message from scribble: < maps.gstatic.com does anyone know what to do ?
    by Edano 5/17/2011 11:21:33 AM

  • *http://maps.gstatic.com/intl/en_ALL/mapfiles/310c/maps2.api/main.js:238*
    by Edano 5/17/2011 11:21:59 AM

  • Sorry I can't share the original pressure stuff with you yet (@nancy I need to upload to somewhere) but the readings suggest that the RPVs failed on: #1 12/13 March; #2 15 March; #313 March. On those approx dates all RPVs seem to have lost pressure.
    by hudebnik 5/17/2011 11:26:30 AM

  • To get an idea of the kind of traffic Fuku is generating. I had over 6 million hits on my site, 700k of that in the last week. The photo tour of pre-quake fuku had over 100k hits, and some of the other pages on the reactors had that level too. Lots of Japan websites referring over an one that appears to be a forum about Chernobyl. 17:00 CST seems to show huge peaks in traffic..
    by Nancy 5/17/2011 11:30:21 AM

  • @hudebnik what kind of file is it?
    by Nancy 5/17/2011 11:30:44 AM

  • @hudebnik For info - there are various free and easy online file hosting services available. This is one I've used previously which enables the sharing of data via a url: www.datafilehost.com
    by es 5/17/2011 11:30:51 AM

  • @Nancy Very interesting and good to know, thanks.
    by es 5/17/2011 11:32:55 AM

  • @hudebnik if anyone finds useful data on TEPCO or any of the GoJ websites, save a copy. We found early on that information would evaporate or move locations.
    by Nancy 5/17/2011 11:33:17 AM

  • @nancy - they are PDfs
    by hudebnik 5/17/2011 11:36:47 AM

  • @nancy - I don't have time to do any more today but I have emailed them to @dean
    by hudebnik 5/17/2011 11:38:08 AM

  • And to Arnie G!
    by hudebnik 5/17/2011 11:40:30 AM

  • You can always contact Jim Carver (e-mail pinned up) and ask him to save backup copies of certain websites. We has the resources to do that. Then we can prove if something has been removed. He's been backing TEPCO's website up for quite a long time now, since they changed it to the current layout.
    by Pedro Jesus 5/17/2011 11:42:19 AM

  • @nancy - before I go would you like me to email them to you? We need them to be accessible to all, they are dynamite.
    by hudebnik 5/17/2011 11:45:16 AM

  • I'm not a reactor engineer but I'm certain fron the pressure figs I've got that #2 and #3 melted down within a couple of days of #1. No wonder Tepco has removed the data!
    by hudebnik 5/17/2011 11:46:36 AM

  • @hudebnik If you suspect that something has gone missing from TEPCO's website, please contact Jim Carver and ask him to check it out for us. If we could prove TEPCO has been tampering with data on their website that would be very serious.
    by Pedro Jesus 5/17/2011 11:49:50 AM

  • @Nancy LoLLopezz LazLopez
    Reactor unit 5 at #fukushima is leaking due to the damage done by the earthquake not tunami. #genpatsu
    by Majj 5/17/2011 11:52:16 AM

  • Safe state in 6-9 months. online.wsj.com
    by Scilla 5/17/2011 11:53:33 AM

  • @Majj hmm. wonder what is leaking??
    by Nancy 5/17/2011 11:55:53 AM

  • @hudebnik you can email me at lillymunster (at) gmail.com and I can post a copy
    by Nancy 5/17/2011 11:56:52 AM

  • @Nancy Yea, I know exactly what pi your'e taking about. Looking for it now. Smashed doors and all.
    by RBeaner 5/17/2011 12:02:03 PM

  • On the new data sheets released by Tepco, what's that light blue line with the clear triangles measuring on top of the RPV? Temperature? Radiation? Something else?
    by Jack Bogdanski 5/17/2011 12:04:19 PM

  • @Jack - if google is to be trusted it is 'S RPV Flange body'
    by hudebnik 5/17/2011 12:09:13 PM

  • Japanese to English translation of the sensor placings shown on right of temp PDFs:
    Stat s RPV temperature bolts
    S lower body temperature RPV Flange
    S RPV Flange body
    Low seal RPV s F
    Noss dollar water temperature N4B
    RPV Upper Head Bottom
    2-86A main steam isolation valve leakage
    Off temperature
    2-71D relief safety valve leakage
    2-71F relief safety valve leakage
    Lower temperature pressure vessel
    D / W HVH return temperature
    S / C A pool water temperature
    S / C B pool water temperature
    by hudebnik 5/17/2011 12:10:31 PM

  • A useful translation of the table headers for the TEPCO reactor data is on the Fukushimafaq: fukushimafaq.wikispaces.com
    by es 5/17/2011 12:15:41 PM

  • Nancy Has gone viral. Cheers to you. Mata (later) Im off to work.
    by carabnr 5/17/2011 12:18:30 PM

  • @es - there are some differences between the Google tx and the one @Bo got from a Japanese colleague. @bo is now away on the road - does anyone have access to a Japanese speaker who could double-check?
    by hudebnik 5/17/2011 12:20:24 PM

  • Ironic that we should get the info because of an accidental release of information by Tepco!
    by hudebnik 5/17/2011 12:22:07 PM

  • @Nancy Id you get this slide show fom 3/14 or so, don't know exactly, but early in.reuters.com
    by RBeaner 5/17/2011 12:22:55 PM

  • good morning to all
    by dean 5/17/2011 12:23:46 PM

  • Morning Dean!
    by Angie 5/17/2011 12:24:38 PM

  • Morning Dean!
    by hudebnik 5/17/2011 12:26:02 PM

  • I hope, and assume, we have backups (of everything) that are not reliant or accessible to Jim Carver.. After the meltdown. I hope????
    by RBeaner 5/17/2011 12:47:26 PM

  • Nancy and elaine has done a good job on that RBeaner I believe
    by dean 5/17/2011 12:50:20 PM

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