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we know they are working in the reactor bluiding areas, probably equipment related to work.. many be with light reflecting off it to give appearence it is moving...
by fitter 5/23/2011 4:44:14 PM

It's almost as if their 'vapor happens' statement yesterday was meant to preempt the questions they knew would be coming concerning smoke and fire.
by LM 5/23/2011 4:44:40 PM

I'm realy not sure about 3 - it seems to flicker, but there's little other movement & not much smoke. But 4 is different
by UKVal 5/23/2011 4:45:41 PM

Give me about 20 min and I will have the regular video up
by deb 5/23/2011 4:46:28 PM

@fitter Awful lot of smoke to be equipment working-just my opinion
by ch 5/23/2011 4:47:06 PM

@deb try to see if you can find similar night images of a known construction job for comparrison
by fitter 5/23/2011 4:47:45 PM

22 May 12:00 vs. 23 May 6:00 changes. #1 continuing slow pressure increase, temps stable/slight decrease. #1 CAMS showed big drop, from 196 Sv/hr (yes, 196) to 33 Sv/hr today -- something really not happy there, else instrument bad. #2 looking stable, slight decreases in parameters. #3 RPV temps down a few degrees, DW temps up.
by Markfm 5/23/2011 4:48:22 PM

Anyone hear of something significant in #1 Sat or Sun? Big rad reading in #1 yesterday.
by Markfm 5/23/2011 4:48:58 PM

The smoke from 3 is moving left behind crane and dissipating...I think...because I can see puffs every now and again..not to mention I think the smoke from 3 is darker and blends in with background more.
by LM 5/23/2011 4:49:26 PM

If the orange on top of 4 is flames too- that is a big fire inside streching across most of inside of the building
by ch 5/23/2011 4:49:48 PM

The orange in 4 appears to have reduced. The trouble is people miss the 1st & most obvious part of the event & then assume we've all gone nuts -like the Big Smoke events.
by UKVal 5/23/2011 4:49:53 PM

Nancy: Maybe our group can submit an FOIA request, including images (video - photos - thermal images etc.) what do you think?
Donna L. Sealing/FOIA Privacy Officer
U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission Mailstop T5-F09 Washington, DC 20555-0001
cc: Scott Burnell, NRC spokesman
FOIA REQUEST April 13, 2011
Dear Ms. Sealing:
I respectfully request access to records of the United States Nuclear Regulatory
Commission (NRC) for the purpose of reporting to the readers of tce todaylThe
Chemical Engineer magazine, published by iChemE in Rugby, UK. I request this under
the Freedom of Information Act, U.S.C. § 552.
I am a U.S.-based science writer for the aforementioned publication, and in 2009
included the NRC in a discussion of the nuclear "renaissance" in the U.S. I worked with
Scott Burnell, who was most helpful at the time.
Now in specific, I request records related to any inspections of General Electric reactors at the Japan Fukushima Dai-ichi and Fukushima Daini nuclear plants. I also request records to inspections at US plants: Diablo. Canyon, Indian Point, San Onofre and Clinton reactor in Illinois.
With regard to the Diablo Canyon and San Onofre plants, I need records indicating whether their reactors have been designed for a magnitude on the order of the Japanese Mar. 11 earthquake (9.0) and/or a tsunami, and if so of what size. I would like to have records of all inspections for the course of these reactors' lifespans.
Please expedite this request, if possible, as my deadline is Apr. 22.
Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.
Very truly yours,
Laurie Wiegler Science Writer www.linkedin.com/in/weegs pbadupws.nrc.gov
by Tenzing 5/23/2011 4:50:24 PM

@UKVal I agree with you.
by ch 5/23/2011 4:51:32 PM

@ch combination, but the orange could be 8-pack welder set=up, gererators and night work light rigs... large equipment... along with fire equpment,,, watering equipment... light boucibg off can make things apper as aflicker from that far away... have been watching for awile.. may have some fire,, defentently still have vapor from fuel i waoul expect...
by fitter 5/23/2011 4:51:41 PM

@LM I've def seen puffs of smoke, but would expect to see more if that's a fire -before it dissipates into the dark
by UKVal 5/23/2011 4:52:12 PM

@Tenzing I am sure we could. I grabbed the post.
by Nancy 5/23/2011 4:52:35 PM

the orange blob in front of 4 could be equipment, but not the others.
by UKVal 5/23/2011 4:53:24 PM

@LM there are no or fewer lights on 3 tonight.
by Nancy 5/23/2011 4:53:32 PM

Nancy check this one as well its written in legal format by a group of attorney's pbadupws.nrc.gov
by Tenzing 5/23/2011 4:53:33 PM

Fairewinds . The Implications of the Fukushima Accident on the World's Operating Reactors fairewinds.com
by Majj 5/23/2011 4:54:10 PM

@UKVal..So true and I agree smoke is not as obvious on 3 but I do see puffs coming right off the orange area. I guess it all comes down to the nature of what is burning. I'm definitely not a fire expert!
by LM 5/23/2011 4:54:13 PM

@Nancy True.
by LM 5/23/2011 4:54:51 PM

@fitter that could be - I am not knowledgable re: that kind of equipment. Just know at the beginning esp. it looked and acted like flames
by ch 5/23/2011 4:55:14 PM

TobNa
point..
by LM 5/23/2011 4:56:07 PM

@ch construction equipt typically has a lot of refltctive areas so it can be seen!!!!! then it still gets hit
by fitter 5/23/2011 4:56:40 PM

Disregard last post...To Nancy's point. Wouldn't there be more light on 3 if they were using equipment?
by LM 5/23/2011 4:57:07 PM

@LM ah! I thought you were using some kinda code I didn't know!
by UKVal 5/23/2011 4:57:49 PM

@UKVal iPad fart.
by LM 5/23/2011 4:58:16 PM

@LM LOL! ( had to ask my daughter what that meant a few months ago as I don't do blogs/ texts much!)
by UKVal 5/23/2011 4:59:40 PM

not if welding at ground level, who knows typical night work lights are not intended to flood like theses pics... work area lights would be/ could be a smaller foot prtnt fouced on the work
by fitter 5/23/2011 4:59:52 PM

Is it just me or does anyone else see a bit of orange flickering in the shadow on corner of 2 being reflected from 3?
by LM 5/23/2011 4:59:54 PM

@LM re equip - not if it was parked for the night
by UKVal 5/23/2011 5:00:05 PM

@Markfm, does your source on the parameters report any measurements on #4 reactor?
by Peter Melzer 5/23/2011 5:00:49 PM

I'm throwing my hands up...my head is telling me they're flames and the putzmeisters would look red even under spotlights..but I don't know!!
by LM 5/23/2011 5:02:53 PM

U.N. body to probe Fukushima radiation impact
af.reuters.com
by Panserbjorne9 5/23/2011 5:03:00 PM

@LM that is also up on that work deck of 3. How would they get people and equipment up there with the current conditions plus no work lights turned on at 3?
by Nancy 5/23/2011 5:03:20 PM

reaaaaaallly. Scientists surprised at upgradation of Fukushima to INES 7
news.in.msn.com
by Panserbjorne9 5/23/2011 5:04:39 PM

This is an excellent source of info/articles dating back to 3/11/11. www.onepennysheet.com. I added this article because it appears the NISA was aware of a possible Meltdown in Unit 1 on March 12, 2011. March 12, 2011 - Atomic Safety Agency: Reactor Fuel Rods May Have Begun to Melt
A nuclear reactor in the Fukushima Dai-Ichi power station about 220 kilometers (140 miles) north of Tokyo may be starting to melt down after Japan’s biggest earthquake on record hit the area yesterday.

Fuel rods at the No. 1 reactor at the plant run by Tokyo Electric Power Co. may be melting after radioactive Cesium material left by atomic fission was detected near the site, Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency, spokesman Yuji Kakizaki said by phone today.

“If the fuel rods are melting and this continues, a reactor meltdown is possible,” Kakizaki said. A meltdown refers to a heat buildup in the core of such an intensity it melts the floor of the reactor containment housing.
by Tenzing 5/23/2011 5:04:42 PM

#4 is overall exempt from measurement, due to the reactor being empty. #4 SFP just lists the 84C from back on 7 May, no new data. They are adding 100 - 120 tons of water every two days.
by Markfm 5/23/2011 5:04:45 PM

Nancy I agree. I think it's fire. Can you get some shots with enhanced color from the shadow on 2? Every now and again I think I'm seeing flame reflections from 3.
by LM 5/23/2011 5:05:01 PM

Japanese protest revised school radiation limit
www.france24.com
by Panserbjorne9 5/23/2011 5:06:11 PM

@Panserbjorne9 The UN Cover Up of Ionizing Radiation Health FX margotbworldnews.com
by Bobby1 5/23/2011 5:06:23 PM

@Nancy agreed about current work on 3. but could be parked putz - I've seen I closeby there. However it isn't equip inside 4...
by UKVal 5/23/2011 5:06:23 PM

@UKVal LOL. This is my first blog and I typed my first text 3 weeks ago..You're not alone.
by LM 5/23/2011 5:07:09 PM

Parents demand lower radiation limit for children

A group of parents of school children is calling for lowering the government-set radiation limit for children.

The group is from Fukushima Prefecture, where a crippled nuclear power plant is posing the danger of nuclear contamination.

On Monday, members of the group visited the education ministry and submitted a petition bearing more than 15,000 signatures.

After the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant accident, the government set the yearly limit for accumulated external radiation for children undertaking outdoor activities at 20 millisieverts.

The parents have been pointing out that the government safety level is too high for children and are demanding that it be lowered to 1 millisievert per year.

One millisievert per year is the level recommended by the International Commission on Radiological Protection as a long-term annual reference level for humans.

The parents say the government should take as many measures as possible to reduce children's radiation exposure, such as removing contaminated topsoil from schoolyards.

A ministry official admitted that the 20-millisievert yearly level is not necessarily an appropriate limit for children. The official told the group that the ministry wants to consider all possible measures to reduce radiation risk.

Monday, May 23, 2011 21:29 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp
by Edano 5/23/2011 5:08:00 PM