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  • Supporting my post below, to test for radioactive contamination "rainwater is usually collected in large surface collectors and then measured by γ-spectrometry after such treatments as evaporation or iron hydroxide precipitation." bold added

    Source: Determination of radionuclide levels in rainwater using ion exchange resin and g-spectrometry doc.rero.ch

    So to test for radionuclides in rainwater, the water is evaporated (ie, removed) so as to extract the particulate content carried in the rainwater and screen it for radionuclides.
    by Ian 5/29/2011 12:56:40 PM

  • @deb Thanks . I can talk perfect , but writing ...... :-)))))))))))))))))
    by Majj 5/29/2011 12:57:25 PM

  • On the final travels of former Typhoon Songda, now a rated a TS(Tropical Storm), currently transitioning to an extra tropical system. Rains continue to fall over the Southern areas of Japan, @0900UTC(1800JST) the 12 hour rainfall totals over 7 stations exceeded 150mm and 30+ stations recorded 100mm in that time, precipitation over Fukushima continues to be relatively subdued ahead of the systems arrival to the south around 0300UTC(1200JST)/30. Precipitation can be monitored @ AMeDAS. AMeDAS modeling are predicting on the 1500 JST(0600UTC) run winds at 10m height to be 10-15m/s(19-30kts) over the Fukushima coastline with15-20m/s(30-39kts) just offshore blowing southerly @ +24 hours, to note something though and I don’t know if this has been raised yet, wind speeds are at 10m, a reactor isn’t 10m it’s 65m from my bad memory, so using the more advanced wind forecast changing to the 100m height winds are still predicted to be equal to the 10m directly over Fukushima NPP but at the northern boundary of the exclusion zone the forecast indicates a 20-25m/s(39-49kts) wind. In short though…. as it’s a static map, it’s hard to truly discern whether the stronger outliers @ the 100m height will affect the plant, again this is true across the 10m height with the wider map indicating areas of higher wind approaching over open water. I think the fact the building is taller leaving it more affected by high winds should be noted, remembering too, the top half is what is destroyed and where the SFP’s are, even the lower winds could blow debris into the pools….not that there is any shortage now! It could of course cause many other problems along with the rain….hopefully it doesn’t. It’s late so I am sorry but I will have to leave, I won’t be back for around 20 hours so by then the end result will be known regarding Ex-typhoon Songda. Or it will be well on the way anyways. All the usual is available @ JTWC- www.usno.navy.mil @AMeDAS-Forecast wind(changeable altitudes)- agora.ex.nii.ac.jp WARNING a very heavy link, it always likes to crash my browser! They also have the simple wind map forecast, current wind observations and rain observations and JMA will also continue to update their wave forecast.
    by Thunder 5/29/2011 12:59:54 PM

  • @deb oh good, so I can spell better than i thought, ist generation english... galic and irsh english spelled different... so i learned some different.. plus i have dyslicia... now i can quite the sychologist.. thanks, next time my son corrects me i'll have back up!
    by fitter 5/29/2011 1:08:30 PM

  • @deb forgot to put the keyboard in the equazion... I do spell better in long hand
    by fitter 5/29/2011 1:09:35 PM

  • @deb do you have any info on the younger generation being unable to read or write long hand?? my grandkids were never tought to read or write longhand written words! my son reads it, and can write it but its very hard for him and he is very well educated..
    by fitter 5/29/2011 1:12:38 PM

  • @Majj Many years ago, an illness, forced me to become "right-handed", and remember spending hours with the wide ruled paper. Even though I knew how to spell the words, there was more struggle to get the letters in the correct position. It was very strange because my brain would work twice as fast as my hand, causing me to drop letters, words all the time. Thus, explains some of my weird looking posts on here, lololol
    by deb 5/29/2011 1:13:41 PM

  • @fitter In 38 years, I still cannot cursive with my right hand, it is the one thing it simply refuses to do. Cursive is difficult, and requires a lot of patience to do it, so what you write can be understood. It also takes "more time" thus in a society where we want everything "now", the fine art of cursive is lost.
    by deb 5/29/2011 1:17:04 PM

  • @deb i wrote to my grandaughter for two years before she fesed up that she couldn't read it, my son spent 13 years in private school with the nuns, almost fell off my chair when he asked me if checks have to be in long hand...he couldn't rember how to do it
    by fitter 5/29/2011 1:20:08 PM

  • @deb i spell and think best in cursive, wonder if it has something to do with what type of learner a person is...visual vs audio etc?
    by fitter 5/29/2011 1:21:28 PM

  • @fitter the public education system is messed up, no money for teachers or books, but they can spend 5 million on updating the buildings...so, while students sit in nice classrooms, they don't have the tools or instruction
    to get a decent education.
    by deb 5/29/2011 1:23:51 PM

  • @deb I had to write wrong handed for about a year after a car accident. This was before all the nifty portable devices. Taking notes was really interesting. I made up my own shorthand.
    by Nancy 5/29/2011 1:24:42 PM

  • Did you all see this: Fukushima school limit: 1 millisievert

    By MIZUHO AOKI and REIJI YOSHIDA
    Staff writers

    The education ministry said Friday it has set a new nonbinding target to reduce radiation exposure of Fukushima Prefecture students while they are at school to 1 millisievert or less a year. search.japantimes.co.jp
    by deb 5/29/2011 1:26:54 PM

  • @deb This is the best news of the month :-)))
    by Majj 5/29/2011 1:31:09 PM

  • It turns out that the original decision to raise the school limit to 20 millisieverts, was based on recommendations from the International Commission on Radiological Protection (ICRP). This had given rise to outrage not only in Japan, but all over the world. translate.google.com
    by Bobby1 5/29/2011 1:34:36 PM

  • That is probably the biggest PR coup to date. The children cannot play out, cannot walk to or play in the park, they cannot pick flowers they cannot in fact do anything outdoors bar walk to schol fully covered with masks on.
    Once in school they can sit and cook all day because the air conditioning cannot be turned on because that would mean a constant fresh supply of radiation so they sit in sealed classrooms sweating.
    At home they are in the same situation if that is what Japan considers a childhood they are sick.
    The new levels are non mandatory and are something the government say they will aim for.
    by elainekirk 5/29/2011 1:37:05 PM

  • @deb i hear you, we spent around 100,00 on grade/high school.... but worth every penny... he stay on the deans list in engineering at a very highly rated school... but still can't write, go figure... he does say he likes to do his outlines by hand then on the pc ... he rembers it better, i'm th esane way
    by fitter 5/29/2011 1:37:25 PM

  • @Majj Yes, the mom's got their anger listened too...that's the power of the mother :)
    by deb 5/29/2011 1:40:15 PM

  • @Majj what was the rate before they raised it to 20? do you know
    by fitter 5/29/2011 1:41:41 PM

  • wellwell fearmongerers ! any updates on #5 temps ? my local newspaper just shocked me with 94° and failing pumps. will we have another china syndrome ?
    by Edano 5/29/2011 1:42:12 PM

  • Good morning Edano
    by deb 5/29/2011 1:42:42 PM

  • @deb like I say a pr coup - the mothers havent been listened to - if you read the Letter from a Fukushima Mother they are saying
    This summer, our children won’t be able to go swimming. They won’t be able to play outside. They can’t eat Fukushima’s delicious peaches. They can’t even eat the rice that the Fukushima farmers are making. They can’t go visit Fukushima’s beautiful rivers, mountains and lakes. This makes me sad. This fills me with so much regret.

    Instead, our children will spend the summer in their classrooms, with no air conditioning, sweating as they try to concentrate on their lessons. We don’t even know how much radiation they’ve already been exposed to.
    .
    Like I say PR
    by elainekirk 5/29/2011 1:42:51 PM

  • @elainekirk Take a deep breath, relax... take enjoyment in positive movement then continue on your journy!! you'll lose your sanity otherwise (smilely don't know how to make)
    by fitter 5/29/2011 1:43:52 PM

  • @Edano hello
    by fitter 5/29/2011 1:44:53 PM

  • i think tepco should be prepared and order another putzmeister in time.
    by Edano 5/29/2011 1:45:09 PM

  • @Edano its my understanding the manufacture bought back those from other folks, and are in the process of building more... they had the owner/boss on tv back when they shipped the originals
    by fitter 5/29/2011 1:46:36 PM

  • @elainekirk I know, and frankly it is all crap, but right now, for those children, 1 is better than 20, it is a small step, but in this situation, it is all we have. If you can't find 1 thing, no matter how small, to be grateful for, life is not worth living.
    by deb 5/29/2011 1:46:59 PM

  • @fitter :) happy face :( sad face (that's about all I know in text talk, besides lol)
    by deb 5/29/2011 1:48:12 PM

  • the typhoon seems to miss tokyo and fuku ..... hisz.rsoe.hu the last one did the same.
    by Edano 5/29/2011 1:48:19 PM

  • @Edano Now downgraded to a tropical storm, it will still be bad, but no typhoon!
    by deb 5/29/2011 1:49:00 PM

  • last Map Tropical Depression SONGDA: Probability of tropical storm winds to 24 hours lead www.tropicalstormrisk.com

    by Majj via Tropicalstormrisk 5/29/2011 1:49:36 PM

  • @deb i would guess these storms then come to the us if they still remain, or is the pacific to cold to substain them?
    by fitter 5/29/2011 1:50:28 PM

  • @Majj : look there is a town named Obama !
    by Edano 5/29/2011 1:50:39 PM

  • @Edano Obama will get 35 knot of wind ;-)
    by Majj 5/29/2011 1:51:26 PM

  • @Edano I saw that and thought it was a trick map! How horrible to have to put that on all your mail. Sick reminder of how messed up the US government is.
    by deb 5/29/2011 1:51:52 PM

  • @deb : better obama than george doubleu
    by Edano 5/29/2011 1:52:54 PM

  • @Edano lololol, they are all crooks true...
    by deb 5/29/2011 1:53:38 PM

  • @deb agree there, its not the payscale that drives one to be president in the US.. its the power and payscale after
    by fitter 5/29/2011 1:55:12 PM

  • Cooling system pumps stop for 15 hours at Fukushima plant's No. 5 unit

    TOKYO, May 29, Kyodo

    Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Sunday pumps to cool the nuclear reactor and fuel pool at its crippled Fukushima Daiichi power plant's No. 5 unit, which had been in a state of ''cold shutdown,'' stopped for around 15 hours until backup pumps were activated.

    The temperature inside the reactor rose to as high as 94.8 C after the unit's pumps were found to have stopped Saturday night but fell after switching to the backup pumps to restore the cooling system, the utility known as TEPCO said.

    If the unit had been left unattended with the temperature surpassing 100 C, the water containing nuclear fuel inside the reactor could have boiled and evaporated, thereby exposing the fuel and damaging it.
    english.kyodonews.jp
    by Edano 5/29/2011 1:55:13 PM

  • and we had a fire in daini yesterday. tepco's nightmare on elm street. don't fall asleep.
    by Edano 5/29/2011 1:56:40 PM

  • @Edano Another fire at Daini? They had one a few days ago as well.
    by deb 5/29/2011 1:57:08 PM

  • The last Daini fire was on May 26th
    by deb 5/29/2011 1:57:55 PM

  • @deb : maybe i meant this one.
    by Edano 5/29/2011 1:58:47 PM

  • 2 Molotov cocktails found at Kyushu Electric's Saga office english.kyodonews.jp what's that ?
    by Edano 5/29/2011 1:59:56 PM

  • No.5 reactor temperature rises after pump failure

    The operator of the damaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant says temperatures in the Number 5 reactor and its spent fuel storage pool have risen due to pump failure. The reactor has been in a state of cold shutdown.

    Tokyo Electric Power Company says it found at 9 PM on Saturday that a pump bringing seawater to cooling equipment for the reactor and pool had stopped working.

    TEPCO says temperatures have been rising since then.

    The water temperature in the reactor rose by about 24 degrees Celsius to 92.2 degrees at 11 AM on Sunday. The temperature in the fuel storage pool increased to 45.7 degrees from 41 degrees.

    On Sunday morning, TEPCO installed a new pump that started operating shortly after noon.
    The company suspects failure in the pump motor caused the malfunction. It is now working to detect the cause of the failure while monitoring temperatures in the reactor and pool.

    Sunday, May 29, 2011 13:08 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp
    by Edano 5/29/2011 2:02:25 PM

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