Japan Earthquake

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It's funny (in a not funny at all way) that we can't track down such a large floater. I wonder whatever happened to it. It was supposed to be at Fukushima Daiichi NPP harbour ready to receive highly contaminated water transfer. You might be right. They might be playing safe. But still, they need to do something about all that highly radioactive
water very quickly. [whisper] Unless the water has been leaking underground and TEPCO hasn't told any one about it yet. [/whisper]
by Pedro Jesus 6/13/2011 9:34:47 AM

@pedro the groundwater radiation levels show it is leaking and I dont quite understand how filling a trench with concrete is going to prevent groundwater entering the ocean
by elainekirk 6/13/2011 9:36:43 AM

@elainekirk Water can find its own way through concrete. Concrete is not water tight (has I have experienced at my former house this past Winter). Definitely not a very effective solution.
by Pedro Jesus 6/13/2011 9:39:28 AM

quote from an 85yr old grandmother on twitter speaking about the difference between the two main political parties in Japan
"stupid + stupid = ?"
by elainekirk 6/13/2011 9:39:54 AM

@pedro and is it plutonium or strontium that bonds with concrete ? this amazes me how they think going into the zone and turning the soil is going to make the place habitable
by elainekirk 6/13/2011 9:41:24 AM

I have no idea. I know strontium90 is almost exclusively a beta emitter whereas plutonium238 is almost exclusively a alpha emitter (alpha emissions do not penetrate far so it is easy to shield plutonium238 radiation). But both are extremely dangerous (potentially lethal) when they enter the human body.
by Pedro Jesus 6/13/2011 9:56:42 AM

@pedro I do reflect often on the last major accident and how -in the absence of much of todays technology and communications- it was handled. The accidents are not in my opinion comparable but the handling, information dispersal etc are surely worthy of observing I remember daily updates in Britain globally it seemed to be taken as everyones problem and everyone dealt with it
by elainekirk 6/13/2011 10:06:18 AM

Well, there is no doubt that TEPCO and the Japanese Government haven't been handling this situation well. So much so that they have both admitted it publicly. I think all governments from nuclear powers in the world should reflect about what has been going on in Japan and ask themselves how they would handle such a catastrophe. I doubt most of them would be prepared to face such an extreme situation (and we have seen other examples throughout recent history). The fact that modern society is not prepared to handle nuclear disasters has become so obvious that I think all the anti-nuclear activists have been, in fact, right all along. The dangers of nuclear [fission] power largely surpass our ability to safely harness its energy. I still have faith on nuclear fusion, though. I hope ITER works, for the good of Mankind. But that is far away into the future. We must implement alternatives right now!
by Pedro Jesus 6/13/2011 10:18:49 AM

@pedro you put it perfectly
by elainekirk 6/13/2011 10:22:09 AM

It looks like 6 more workers have been found to be over the radiation limit translate.google.com
by elainekirk 6/13/2011 10:27:04 AM

I need some more rest, sorry. Only slept 2 hours and was just falling asleep on the keyboard. See you later. =)
by Pedro Jesus 6/13/2011 10:38:46 AM

@pedro sleep well
by elainekirk 6/13/2011 10:39:56 AM

@hi Don't know if these pics are new to you: 45 New Photos Of Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant Show the Damage From The Great Tohoku-Chihou-Taiheiyou-Oki Earthquake And Subsequent Tsunami That Damaged The Nuclear Power Plant
Thanks to the diligent work of photographer Daisuke TSUDA we are able to bring you brand new pictures demonstrating the hazardous conditions at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant. Piles of radioactive rubble litter the site making work to bring the reactors under control almost impossible. These never before published photos were captured in May, at great risk to the photography crew.
www.globalresearch.ca
by Mona 6/13/2011 10:42:57 AM

@mona that was a great find can I suggest that we direct people to this flickr site where all pics and more are in an album titled 'Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant conditions' they are published . Global research credit the photographer as being 'photographer Daisuke TSUDA' www.flickr.com
by elainekirk 6/13/2011 11:10:46 AM

@mona cool pics, ty
by bo 6/13/2011 11:13:26 AM

@bo they are great @mona thankyou so much I only added the flickr that global research pointed to because they have'nt got lucas whitfield emblazoned across them I wouldnt have found them without you posting that link thank you :)
by elainekirk 6/13/2011 11:18:38 AM

RT has sent a reporter to Japan and he is doing stories from around the area, and looking at radiation detection and clean up efforts as well as taking rad readings. They may be one of the only international news organizations investing additional money in this story.
by bo 6/13/2011 11:20:42 AM

@bo the asahi link you posted I cannot find the article in japanese I tweeted the English one and it would be nice to tweet a japanese version
by elainekirk 6/13/2011 11:20:43 AM

@elainekirk, I don't read Japanese but I'll ask my friend to scan the Japanese Asahi site in the morning and forward any link that I find.
by bo 6/13/2011 11:21:35 AM

@bo more and more RT are the only news site consistently reporting from outside Japan I have many on my twitter feed but by far it is RT who post re Japan the others are busy with footballers etc indiscretions
by elainekirk 6/13/2011 11:22:52 AM

@bo ty
by elainekirk 6/13/2011 11:23:03 AM

a doc from METI telling of changes in water storage www.nisa.meti.go.jp one thing always suprises me and that is meti saying they have 'evaluated' a situation when all they appear to have done is read a tepco doc and endorsed it! to my mind that is not 'evaluating'
by elainekirk 6/13/2011 11:28:48 AM

seems they have an ufo now on the site. www.tepco.co.jp
by Edano 6/13/2011 11:30:18 AM

by elainekirk 6/13/2011 11:37:31 AM

www.asahi.com

Demonstrations against nuclear power blanket Japan

2011/06/12
Marking three months after the crisis erupted at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant triggered by the Great East Japan Earthquake, protesters marched against nuclear power generation in rallies across Japan on June 11.
In Tokyo's Shinjuku district, where about 20,000 people participated in a march that started at about 3 p.m., 43-year-old company employee Makoto Saito joined the protest along with his wife and two sons.
"Above all things, I care about my children's future. There is no way except for suspending the operations of nuclear power plants immediately," said Saito, who was taking part in a demonstration of this kind for the first time.
The protests across Japan were organized, through the Internet and other means, by environmental and other groups under the title, "6-11 Datsu-Genpatsu 100-Mannin Action" (June 11 nuclear power generation-free one million people action).
Organizers have held similar demonstrations in Tokyo since the accidents took place at the Fukushima plant in the aftermath of the March 11 quake and resulting tsunami, which swamped the plant.
According to the groups, demonstrations and other anti-nuclear events were held on June 11 at about 140 sites across Japan, including Tokyo, Osaka, Hiroshima and also Fukui Prefecture, where four nuclear power plants are located.
Demonstrations and rallies were also held in parts of Fukushima Prefecture where the Fukushima No. 1 plant is sited. In Koriyama, in the central part of the prefecture, about 200 people marched while holding placards that read, "No More Fukushima" and "Return our hometowns."
Apparently due to the accidents at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant, the radiation level in Koriyama remains more than 20 times higher than that in Tokyo.
Madoka Hashimoto, a 36-year-old homemaker from Sukagawa in the prefecture, took part in the demonstration while wearing a mask with the attached message, "I cannot even take a deep breath."
"To tell the truth, I don't want to take part in a demonstration. But I thought that we have to raise anti-nuclear voices from local areas (in Fukushima Prefecture)," she said.
Rallies and demonstrations against nuclear power were also held overseas in June 11 in cities such as Paris, Melbourne, Hong Kong and Taipei.
In Paris, several thousands of people gathered in front of the city government building and expressed their solidarity with the Japanese who were calling for a nuclear-free world. Lawmakers from the Europe Ecology-The Greens and other political parties spoke against the government of President Nicolas Sarkozy, which is promoting the generation of nuclear power.
by jt 6/13/2011 11:37:34 AM

thank you @jt I have tweeted etc people power rules
by elainekirk 6/13/2011 11:43:41 AM

nettv.gov-online.go.jp
2011/06/13
Press Conference by the Chief Cabinet Secretary (June 13th, 2011, at 11:00)

Listen to beginning of this press conference. First item is denial of two reports by Asahi, in particular this article:

www.asahi.com
METI tried to gain influence over Fukushima panel
A push by bureaucrats associated with the nuclear industry to increase their influence over the government-appointed panel investigating the accident at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant was rebuffed by Prime Minister Naoto Kan. (June 12)
by jt 6/13/2011 11:50:04 AM

@elainekirk thank you too.
by jt 6/13/2011 11:51:36 AM

the ufo is moving. can it be a balloon ?
by Edano 6/13/2011 11:52:29 AM

@jt haha this is why msm is so blummin yuk if they dare speak out against big business and government they are slandered and their advertising budgets withdrawn I hope asahi grows and grows
by elainekirk 6/13/2011 11:53:31 AM

@edano so it has
by elainekirk 6/13/2011 11:54:47 AM

hi angie you seen the ufo just uploading its new position
by elainekirk 6/13/2011 12:02:35 PM

tepco ufo
by elainekirk 6/13/2011 12:03:00 PM

@elainekirk huh??? oooooooo wow! I must admit I have not watched the tepcam yet lol
by Angie 6/13/2011 12:04:13 PM

@elainekirk RE your 6:06 comment regarding global coverage (issue) vs. regional: This event will still, in my own opinion, have a negligable impact on the world as a whole. Countries very near to Japan may see significan impact (russia,China,Korea) but most of the world no real impact. The reason we may see interest mostly from RT might be because they provide a english news channel. Do they have internet English news from China and Korea? I don't know.
by RBeaner 6/13/2011 12:09:52 PM

and the ufo moves again it seems to be scanning the common sfp
by elainekirk 6/13/2011 12:22:10 PM

coffee and biscuits I have to go find a wheelbarrow soon, hope we can get one on the bus or it'll be a long walk home
by elainekirk 6/13/2011 12:26:19 PM

@elainekirk My coffee is getting cold, I fogot what continent are you on?
by RBeaner 6/13/2011 12:26:42 PM

@rbeaner I am in sunny Scotland-well if was sunny twixt 2 & 4 pm on Friday at least
by elainekirk 6/13/2011 12:27:39 PM

@elainekirk : could be a reflection of the sun in the back, if they have a filter in front of the cam. but i wonder if there is still sun shine (21:30).
by Edano 6/13/2011 12:29:54 PM

@edano it is possible but it doesnt seem to be getting any lower in the sky ?
by elainekirk 6/13/2011 12:34:42 PM

@elainekirk well, I know a significant amount about radiation health, though certainly an expert on it like some in gov, US EPA, Gunderson, Wing etc... What I am saying about impact is that most odf the world, Scotland, US most of Europe etc.., will never identify any health impact from Daiichi. There may be impact, expert opinion certainly has variety. But your life, time and prehaps eating habits have only been impacted by your choice (this is all my own opinion). You have chosen to reject the many government soothesayer opinions that all is well and safe. As evidence by world wide news outlets, Almost Nobody around the world cares about the reactors. My guess for my US is that 2% of the population may care at al, my guesstimate is 98% are uninterested and the news programs accurately reflect the level of interest. Sorry about the run on post.
by RBeaner 6/13/2011 12:35:12 PM