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@dean : but they have found strontium in a groundwater well next to #1 and 2.by Edano 6/13/2011 3:33:41 PM
yes Edano, so much waste has found it's way to so many areas that will be unrecoverable.by dean 6/13/2011 3:35:28 PM
Highly toxic radioactive strontium has been found in groundwater near the crippled Fukushima nuclear plant.
It is the first time the substance has been detected in groundwater near the plant's No. 1 and No. 2 reactors.
The operator of the Fukushima plant has also confirmed strontium up to 240 times the legal limit has been found in seawater near the facility. www.abc.net.auby Majj 6/13/2011 3:35:39 PM- @dean : and you said:
"I haven't been convinced that it's left the buildings as I at least haven't seen or heard any data that would suggest that... maybe by aerosol sampling etc or water sampling around the units (as you know in US plants they have to have test wells around the area from which to sample) "by Edano 6/13/2011 3:36:02 PM - yes Edano..by dean 6/13/2011 3:37:42 PM
- I meant the corium molten massby dean 6/13/2011 3:37:55 PM
I have to wonder if the secret filtration is some sort of special zeolite based media that has something done to it to improve the trapping of rad particles? www.ehow.comby lillymunster 6/13/2011 3:37:55 PM- the effluents with highly radioactive particles have definately left in leaks, air, etc...by dean 6/13/2011 3:39:17 PM
- the one link said it was an inorganic media not organic.. Edano any ideas on that?by dean 6/13/2011 3:39:52 PM
- @dean what link, please ?by Edano 6/13/2011 3:40:48 PM
- This is the type of zeolite used at TMI and Chernobyl to filter water. It says it is part of a vitrification process. Would that make it able to be melted into a mass and vitrified when done? There are mentions the waste will be vitrified in glass at the end?
www.galleries.comby lillymunster 6/13/2011 3:40:57 PM - energy.verticalnews.com @ Edanoby dean 6/13/2011 3:42:55 PM
- @lilly, when we break down the system for cleanup we can put what medium goes where.. in my world I've been use to either running the water through an anion and then cation resin bed which chemically removed the isotopes, then run the water through a fine mesh filter and back into the water stream.. "or".. use a "MIXED RESIN BED" which does about the same thing only without using the two resins.by dean 6/13/2011 3:46:17 PM
- the zeolite is used as a filtering media for when the resins are flushed into holding tanks, ,the zeolite media being layed in before the water.. then the resins are sluiced in on top of the zeolite and the left over water drains off through the tank.by dean 6/13/2011 3:48:08 PM
- @dean : going to read it.by Edano 6/13/2011 3:52:34 PM
- I need to head to office.. will come back.. ty allby dean 6/13/2011 3:53:33 PM
- inorganic media means "not based on carbon polymers", so mineralic like stone or sand. i find the name odd (Ion Specific Media (ISM)) and the article does not say much with many words. it seems they do not want to explain what they use.by Edano 6/13/2011 4:01:37 PM
- but zeolithe is a mineral, that's indeed nothing new.by Edano 6/13/2011 4:02:57 PM
- @Edano They have a patent pending. I would guess that has something to do with the secrecy. I have to go get some work done. Back after a bit.by lillymunster 6/13/2011 4:03:05 PM
- from the words they use i would judge they simply use a natural mineral which they enhanced chemically in some way.by Edano 6/13/2011 4:05:16 PM
- vitrificated zeolithe.by Edano 6/13/2011 4:12:15 PM
product-image.tradeindia.com ion exchanging resin (not zeolithe)
by Edano via Product-image.tradeindia 6/13/2011 4:16:17 PM
www.russia-ic.com Ion exchanging resin (not zeolithe)
by Edano via Russia-ic 6/13/2011 4:18:19 PM
@edano does it just take the radiation then and leave water molecules? does it just absorb some or all radiation?by elainekirk 6/13/2011 4:20:30 PM
Hello Edano: I posted these last night, rather late. You will find all the information you need here and the Patent information lillimunster is referring too, hope it helps. worldwidescience.org
REMOVAL OF CESIUM BY SORPTION FROM AQUEOUS SOLUTIONS
Ames, L. L. ABS>A process is given for selectively removing cesium from acid aqueous solutions containing cesium in microquantities and other cations in macroquantities by absorption on clinoptilolite. The cesium can be eluted from the clinoptilolite with a solution of ammonia, potassium hydroxide, or rubidium hydroxide. (AEC)
Science.gov (United States) United States Patent 3,017,242
Issue Date: January 16, 1962
Current U.S. Class: 423/6 ; 210/682; 976/DIG.377; 976/DIG.383
Current International Class: C01D 1/00 (20060101); C01D 1/04 (20060101); G21F 9/00 (20060101); G21F 9/12 (20060101)
by Tenzing at 10:26 PM yesterday
NIMS has developed a new material which enables long-term immobilization of highly concentrated cesium. A research team led by Dr. Hideki Abe, Principal Researcher of the Environmental Remediation Materials Unit in National Institute for Materials Science (President: Sukekatsu Ushioda), has developed a new material which enables long-term immobilization of cesium in a highly concentrated form. This material is expected to contribute to the technology for treating radioactive cesium isotopes.
by Tenzing at 10:18 PM yesterdayby Tenzing 6/13/2011 4:22:51 PM- @elainekirk : it exchanges ions, it exchanges e.g. strontium against - lets say magnesium. which means that it gets exhausted after some time. the water is not pure afterwards, it must be cleaned again from the exchange ions, but the radioactive strontium is out.by Edano edited by Edano 6/13/2011 4:23:00 PM
- @Tenzing ty, but that is not the kurion thingy they are going to use, isn't it ?by Edano 6/13/2011 4:25:19 PM
- Edano, I also posted this on the Organize Board, your opinion would be appreciated. Hello Edano: I'm wondering if its possible the workers at Fukushima are using flares which are sometimes attached to a hot air balloon to determine wind direction and to illuminate the area their working in, what are your thoughts? It could be a possible identity for the unknown object Elaine was referring to in this post [and the ufo moves again it seems to be scanning the common sfp by elainekirk at 5:22 AM] see page 2 "It may also be used for other operations such as Search and Rescue to determine wind direction and speed, or in any situation, day or night, where a sea surface reference point is required." www.gdotscanada.com
by Tenzing at 9:08 AM www.gd-otscanada.comby Tenzing 6/13/2011 4:26:24 PM - @Edano i don't know. the sites i posted last night have very valuable information, I hope you have time to research them :) your scientific mind will make sense of them :)by Tenzing 6/13/2011 4:29:07 PM
- @Tenzing : oh, i thought it was identified to be the moon ?by Edano 6/13/2011 4:29:07 PM
- kurion is a very strange start-up company founded 2008. their website is absolutely uninformating. they will gain a fortune in fukushima ..... does anybody know these names: www.kurion.com ?by Edano edited by Edano 6/13/2011 4:38:08 PM
- @edano I am just getting the info together on themby elainekirk 6/13/2011 4:46:03 PM
- well, about Mark Denton is nothing to find, Gaëtan Bonhomme is a young scientist and John Raymont is the big boss. i cannot see any political connections, no bilderberg group or CFR. but this is very superficial digging.by Edano 6/13/2011 4:55:49 PM
- Kurion Holds Ribbon Cutting Ceremony Opening its Modular Vitrification System Test Facility www.reuters.com mms.businesswire.com Kurion MVS Facility Ribbon Cutting Ceremony (left to right): Investors Jeff and Arthur Samberg, Kurion VP Dr. Gaëtan Bonhomme, Kurion VP and CTO Dr. Mark Denton, Kurion Pres. & CEO John Raymont, Kurion Chairman and Lux Capital Management Founder Josh Wolfe, Kurion Counsel and WSGR Partner Michael O'Donnell, Kurion VP Dr. Richard Keenan, and Firelake Capital Management Partner Fred Kittler. (Photo: Business Wire)by Edano 6/13/2011 4:58:47 PM
- @edano great stuff just going to go through themby elainekirk 6/13/2011 5:00:34 PM
- @edano 'NUKEM GmbH.' was the parent company of the nuken corp that was bought by energy solutions does the NUKEM GmbH. still operate?by elainekirk 6/13/2011 5:05:09 PM
- @elainekirk oh yes !
For a powerful planet
NUKEM is a “dual national” company based in Germany (NUKEM GmbH) and the United States (NUKEM, Inc.) focused on the civil nuclear fuel market. NUKEM acts as a market intermediary between uranium producers (and other parties in the nuclear fuel chain) and nuclear-electric utilities in North and South America, Europe and the Far East. www.nukem.deby Edano 6/13/2011 5:06:55 PM - NUKEM is a child of RWE, RWE is the biggest energy and nuke company in germany.by Edano 6/13/2011 5:09:44 PM
- @edano very strange that the German parent should sell it's american subsiduary do you think or were they maybe going in different directions?by elainekirk 6/13/2011 5:10:40 PM
@all Smoke show on Tepco cam...by LM 6/13/2011 5:12:45 PM- @elainekirk John Raymont was former NUKEM boss, right ?by Edano 6/13/2011 5:13:01 PM
- by Edano 6/13/2011 5:14:56 PM
- @edano yesby elainekirk 6/13/2011 5:15:36 PM
- This article is December 2010 that is SIX Months ago talk about infancy this stuff is still in nappies www.mfrtech.com
CEO John Raymont said that “the move follows our announced emergence from stealth three weeks ago and signals the next stage in the company’s maturation.”
In November the company announced it was emerging from a two year development period to announce several major achievements regarding its proprietary technologies to reduce nuclear waste management life-cycle costs, accelerate project performance, and facilitate clean, safe, secure nuclear power.by elainekirk 6/13/2011 5:17:17 PM - @elainekirk : wow ! read this :
"Atomic Energy Storage scandal
On 14 January 1988 was the Federal Environment Ministry's operating license for Nukem for the unlawful storage of nuclear waste drums containing high levels of Cesium 135 , Cobalt 60 and plutonium expire. The Nukem subsidiary Trans Nuclear was previously convicted for bribery and she was on 17 December 1987, the license to transport radioactive waste removed. " translate.google.deby Edano 6/13/2011 5:20:52 PM
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