Japan Earthquake

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@elainekirk rockhopper has been trying to follow US nuclear events. I think there is some sort of connection since the US brought the technology to Japan in the first place. The US was quick to blame Fukushima all on factors unique to Japan including that their regulatory was bad. The more I find out the NRC isn't any better than METI and the risks are high here again with the "can't happen here" mentality.
by lillymunster 7/19/2011 8:33:01 PM

@lillymunster @lillymunster the US were effectively (are) the regulators of Japans nukes due to the arms agreement so for the US to say that Japan couldnt happen there is ridiculous they printed the song sheet they are all singing from the possibility that they used Japan as a test bed is something that will be decided in the fullness of time
by elainekirk 7/19/2011 8:37:05 PM

@lillymunster is 2quarts = 4pints?
by elainekirk 7/19/2011 8:38:35 PM

@elainekirk yes on the measurements
by lillymunster 7/19/2011 8:41:31 PM

@lillymunster ty
by elainekirk 7/19/2011 8:43:36 PM

timeline of abbott 'inventions' www.abbott.com
by elainekirk 7/19/2011 8:44:19 PM

NRC on Ft. Calhoun, more oversight but we won't change anything www.greenfieldreporter.com
by lillymunster 7/19/2011 8:50:01 PM

@lillymunster That figures.

I'm still shaking my head at CBS doing an NRC takedown. That's so unexpected. They see the ruse falling apart and its everybody CY-own-A? "We're not Murdoch....SEE?" Just too many holes in the dam?
by RadioGuy 7/19/2011 8:50:53 PM

Oh. Wait. Oh no. I can almost hear it coming: "It's not nuclear energy that is bad. This government-run bureaucracy they have making sure everything is up to code is just inept. All kinds of people run power plants. That government agency failed to do its job catching those few bad apples you'll find in any industry."
by RadioGuy 7/19/2011 8:56:33 PM

Of course the sheer weight of documentation would belie that idea. ;)
by RadioGuy 7/19/2011 8:58:00 PM

@RadioGuy Sounds like exactly what some political assistant is furiously typing up as we speak.
by lillymunster 7/19/2011 8:58:21 PM

@RadioGuy But it was because of all this government regulation that the power plants simply can't bother to not falsify their inspections. :-)
by lillymunster 7/19/2011 8:59:24 PM

nearly time for bo to jump outa bed and give us an update
by elainekirk 7/19/2011 9:16:17 PM

@lillymunster LOL
by RadioGuy 7/19/2011 9:19:08 PM

OK... I'm off for a bit. scribble on. :)
by RadioGuy 7/19/2011 9:22:04 PM

Ma-on has been downgraded to tropical storm hisz.rsoe.hu
by Edano 7/19/2011 9:22:25 PM

@Edano Have you been watching the animated hourly satellite loop? That cyclonic right above it got Bernoullied right down onto it and choked the flow of the jetstream above ma-on right off. Just choked it off as it sucked the wind out to the east with the last of the stream. Amazing stuff. The IR showed it pretty well.
by RadioGuy 7/19/2011 9:24:37 PM

sounds like pacman.
by Edano 7/19/2011 9:25:48 PM

Just deflated Ma-on. You can just see the end of it if you check now. The past 12 hours i think: www.ssd.noaa.gov
by RadioGuy 7/19/2011 9:26:00 PM

that's why ma-on changed the course.
by Edano 7/19/2011 9:27:03 PM

The group rescuing pets from the exclusion zone bagged a goat. :-)
by lillymunster 7/19/2011 9:40:49 PM

@all Hello all!
by smoss 7/19/2011 10:40:55 PM

hi smoss
by elainekirk 7/19/2011 10:41:03 PM

@elainekirk Hi!
by smoss 7/19/2011 10:44:13 PM

2007 unbelievable this is Tepco on the subject of worker exposure docs.google.com
by elainekirk 7/19/2011 10:46:06 PM

@all -The Japanese government and TEPCO have modified their overall timeline for recovery from the Fukushima Daiichi accident. The overall dates have NOT been pushed back, but a number of goals have been redefined, some goals added, and some deleted.
Relevant to our normal discussion on this blog centering on nuclear safety are the following changes: First, the requirement for filtered continuous dry well venting has been deleted. Second, the plan to flood the dry wells has been cancelled. Third, plans to continue to seal leaks in the suppression chambers are marked as cancelled - even though the most recent (July 19, or today) TEPCO press release indicates that "grouting" or concrete filling of the area around the suppression pool at No. 2 plant continues. We will look for further information on this matter. Fourth, the plan to install temporary heat exchangers in the reactor buildings for cooling the reactor cores has been abandoned since the present operation consists of both remotely filtering and remotely cooling the injected water at other buildings on site.

atomicpowerreview.blogspot.com
by smoss 7/19/2011 10:46:33 PM

@smoss ty smoss so they have reached their goal - 4 months of fobbing the public off - they will now be raising their glasses to the next 4months of lies
by elainekirk 7/19/2011 10:49:00 PM

@elainekirk Ok, so we know that Tepco, NISA, METI and GoJ are all playing this situation off...that's a given at this point. What I find intolerable is that no other entity, international or otherwise (and yes, this includes the US gov't) is demanding clarity. In my mind, it then makes them equally culpable. I am not much of a conspiracy theorist, but this is the coverup of the century. Even the former Soviet Union and it's actions with Chernobyl were more forthcoming with information (and that was during the cold war).
by smoss 7/19/2011 11:01:19 PM

www.jnes.go.jp
Daiichi only had CF in #6 the others relied on soft shutdown which of course didnt happen
by elainekirk 7/19/2011 11:02:43 PM

@smoss oh yes at the moment I am trawling for anything to help us build a bigger picture of just how aware the international nuke community were of the situation at daiichi hence the last two posts I am not techi so just pulling anything that seems relevant the links I have given are papers presented at international 'gatherings'
by elainekirk 7/19/2011 11:04:48 PM

@elainekirk Looking at the big picture, makes me wonder what role the lack of economic stability world-wide may be playing behind the scenes. "Too big to fail" may still have alot of governments spooked. (That almost sounded like I feel sorry for them? Whoops!)
by smoss 7/19/2011 11:11:30 PM

@smoss I have just been discussing that on an entirely different subject with another - the euro is toast and yet they are trying to pretend it isnt collapsing and I suggested that if the third biggest economy globally is also at risk of spiralling is there the possibility that...
by elainekirk 7/19/2011 11:18:44 PM

@all Must tend to things elsewhere for a bit...keep up the great work! As this situation trends on, the entities will rely on distraction and mis-information to push attention elsewhere. It will truly come down to the "Everyman" in all of us to make the difference! @elainekirk The possibilities are frightening both economically and environmentally for future generations!
by smoss 7/19/2011 11:21:19 PM

back from the heat
by lillymunster 7/19/2011 11:55:45 PM

www.jnes.go.jp there is just no excuse for this they have absolutely no regard for the safety of workers this is 2008 females workers
by elainekirk 7/20/2011 12:01:38 AM

@elainekirk Wow. That is a huge difference and for all of TEPCO's plants, not just one that maybe had a problem but 3 plants and one of them far from the other two. Are the rates for male workers same time frame available?
by lillymunster 7/20/2011 12:07:15 AM

www.jnes.go.jp
(1) Dosage Distribution of Personnel Engaged in Radiation Work for FY2009
apart from tepco abysmal record look at Kansai's Ohi plant what happened there in '09 159 workers 15-20msv , 395 workers 10-15msv and 541 in the 5-10 msv
by elainekirk 7/20/2011 12:08:01 AM

@lillymunster that link I just posted Daichi is terrible as are tepco on a whole
by elainekirk 7/20/2011 12:09:42 AM

ikrockhopper Itsumi Kakefuda
Kyodo (Flash news): 'Cesium beef' was used for lunch at child daycares in Sakata city, Yamagata.
by elainekirk 7/20/2011 12:11:04 AM

Does the 1mSv or less include all employees that were under the threshold? TEPCo still has the only workers getting a higher dose
by lillymunster 7/20/2011 12:11:17 AM

@lillymunster where is the 1msv or less? ah seen it on the females - I dont know it just says Three-month Radiation Dosage Distribution of Female Personnel Engaged in Radiation Work
by elainekirk 7/20/2011 12:12:04 AM

@elainekirk left column on the female chart
by lillymunster 7/20/2011 12:12:31 AM

Look at the big differences between the employees vs. non employees that get dosed. Other plants do not have nearly as many non employees and fewer with big doses.
by lillymunster 7/20/2011 12:14:01 AM