Japan Earthquake

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hi @dean
by elainekirk 8/18/2011 12:07:10 AM

6.2 EQ just came up on my screen off the coast of honshu
by dean 8/18/2011 12:10:12 AM

Magnitude
6.2
Date-Time
Wednesday, August 17, 2011 at 11:44:07 UTC
Wednesday, August 17, 2011 at 09:44:07 PM at epicenter
Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones
Location
36.776°N, 143.773°E
Depth
10 km (6.2 miles) (poorly constrained)
Region
OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
Distances
304 km (188 miles) E of Iwaki, Honshu, Japan
339 km (210 miles) E of Mito, Honshu, Japan
349 km (216 miles) ESE of Sendai, Honshu, Japan
418 km (259 miles) ENE of TOKYO, Japan
Location Uncertainty
horizontal +/- 27.4 km (17.0 miles); depth +/- 12.8 km (8.0 miles)
Parameters
NST=284, Nph=251, Dmin=542.1 km, Rmss=0.97 sec, Gp= 40°,
M-type=regional moment magnitude (Mw), Version=7
Source
Magnitude: USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)
Location: USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)
Event ID
usc0005fj1
by dean 8/18/2011 12:11:16 AM

@dean well, that was 12 hours ago ;)
by Edano 8/18/2011 12:12:03 AM

geeeeeeeeze
by dean 8/18/2011 12:12:32 AM

local intensity in fuku was 1-2.
by Edano 8/18/2011 12:12:36 AM

my chrome alarm just went off Edano..
by dean 8/18/2011 12:12:45 AM

ok
by dean 8/18/2011 12:12:52 AM

ty Edano
by dean 8/18/2011 12:12:56 AM

@dean are you waiting too
by elainekirk 8/18/2011 12:14:19 AM

yeh
by dean 8/18/2011 12:20:51 AM

@dean Did you see the NHK report that the plant is spewing 1 billion bq an hour? Is that high for the current circumstances? www3.nhk.or.jp
by lillymunster 8/18/2011 12:23:13 AM

reading it
by dean 8/18/2011 12:29:09 AM

Japan’s Prime Minister Kan, soon to step down, pushes nuclear phaseout : TOKYO — About 10 weeks ago, Japanese Prime Minister Naoto Kan started acting differently — less as a part of the system than as somebody intent on battling it.
He first issued a vague promise to resign. He then undertook what amounted to a full character change, awakening as a reformer just as the country signaled its dissatisfaction with the job he was doing. As part of this change, he announced policies without consultation. He torched links with former supporters. He withdrew from the press, spending more time posting to his personal blog. He crusaded against nuclear power and blasted those who sought to protect it.
www.washingtonpost.com
by Majj 8/18/2011 12:30:16 AM

there was also the following on that link @ lilly Radioactivity down to one-fifth of July levels
The Japanese government and Tokyo Electric Power Company say the amount of radioactive material being emitted from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant has dropped to one-fifth that of a month ago.

The government and TEPCO said on Wednesday that maximum radiation levels around the plant during the past 2 weeks were 200 million becquerels per hour.

This is one-fifth the levels detected in July, and one-10 millionth the levels in mid-March, shortly after the troubles began at the plant.

The state minister in charge of the nuclear crisis, Goshi Hosono, said the maximum reading of 200 million becquerels is just an estimate because the exact emission levels cannot be accurately measured.
He pledged to seek methods for making precise measurements and for containing radioactivity inside the plant.

The government and TEPCO said there is no major change in their timetable for bringing the plant under control, and that their goal continues to be to achieve cold shutdown of the reactors while processing contaminated wastewater and reducing radioactive emissions.

The government said it will draw up a plan for decontaminating the current evacuation zone by the end of August, and it will launch a model decontamination project early next month.

Experts say that before the government allows residents to return to the evacuation zone, it will be necessary to prevent new leakage of radioactive material, as well as decontaminate material already leaked and dispose of mud and sludge generated by the decontamination process.
Wednesday, August 17, 2011 22:23 +0900 (JST)
by dean 8/18/2011 12:34:56 AM

this piece says it has been releasing 200 milllion
by dean 8/18/2011 12:36:04 AM

makes me wonder about the 1 billion bq/hr comment as reported
by dean 8/18/2011 12:36:56 AM

I think it would be difficult to accurately come up with a number on the release
by dean 8/18/2011 12:38:04 AM

@dean @dean they have no idea at the end of the day
by elainekirk 8/18/2011 12:42:09 AM

@dean the gov have left tepco to do all the readings in the zone and territorial waters near the plant so there is no way of knowing -how the hell the world has stood aside and given them free reign to run this show is beyond me
by elainekirk 8/18/2011 12:44:04 AM

some foreign countries like china have complained and probably n korea about activity readings in the oceans but it doesn't do much good at this point. I'm not sure if there is a legal pathway to ledge a lawsuit against a country for releasing activitiy. the fisheries around japan are their only first line of knowing what's in the fish etc. it's irritating

by dean 8/18/2011 12:48:03 AM

@ lilly... I'm used to curies/day and when the conversion is done it's not a huge amount, but I still don't understand the disconnect between the reporter's quote and the other article
by dean 8/18/2011 12:49:31 AM

I need to rest some.. was a hard day of training... be back later..
by dean 8/18/2011 12:53:44 AM

@dean ty dean see you later
by elainekirk 8/18/2011 12:55:34 AM

@dean I have thought a lot about the sealife I think this is just the start of the story
by elainekirk 8/18/2011 12:56:21 AM

Have a good one Dean. :-)
by lillymunster 8/18/2011 12:59:41 AM

@elainekirk The Chinese did testing outside of Japan's territorial waters and claim they found high limits in the water over a wide area. The political tensions could be beneficial in that China isn't too motivated to help Japan downplay things.
by lillymunster 8/18/2011 1:01:09 AM

@lilly that is what I am hoping I think either there are desperate discussions going on or China is going to really blow it may be autumn though when the winds pick up the stuff and they have airborne on top of ocean. Thing is whilst teoco have control nobody knows if it is still 'leaking'
by elainekirk 8/18/2011 1:17:38 AM

Good evening, I am still away from home and must be brief. Plenty going on here. As to the rad level/effect project, today's levels must be compared to last years. Since there is no safe level, last years local doses must serve as the standard. The citizens must demand that they can return home only, when the radiation is as low as last year's. I am curious to see how we can project the risk to health from rad levels. As to Bo's friend's question, this can only mean that iodine-131 was still produced in April. Perhaps it is still being produced. Checks for iodine should among workers should still be conducted and may according elevated levels in the thyroid. the amounts of radioactivity emitted from the plant are still consideable. Keep up the good works!
by Peter Melzer 8/18/2011 1:24:52 AM

may show according level...,;)
by Peter Melzer 8/18/2011 1:26:43 AM

@Peter Melzer Hi! Very good rule of thumb we should share this with people in Japan "The citizens must demand that they can return home only, when the radiation is as low as last year's"
by lillymunster 8/18/2011 1:28:30 AM

The story Edano saw on German news this morning is in Japan Times. search.japantimes.co.jp kids give silent officials an earful on crisis

By MIZUHO AOKI
Staff writer
Four children from Fukushima Prefecture on Wednesday met with government officials in Tokyo and urged them to do their utmost to help them rebuild their lives following the March 11 disasters and ongoing nuclear crisis.

Ten officials from the nuclear emergency response headquarters and the education ministry attended the meeting, organized by citizens' groups including the Fukushima Network for Saving Children from Radiation. The kids, aged between 9 and 13, either live in or were evacuated from Fukushima Prefecture.

Kaya Hashimoto, 13, said she evacuated with her family from the town of Miharu in June due to concerns over radiation exposure. The family now lives in Tokyo, and she said she misses her friends in Fukushima and worries about them. "Can you understand the feelings of people who left their hometowns in Fukushima?" she asked the officials.

"I can't trust a government that insists on describing Fukushima as safe when children there wear masks to go to schools and can't use swimming pools," she said.

The officials mostly listened in silence, heads bowed.
by lillymunster 8/18/2011 1:30:28 AM

Ohio gozaimasu all
by bo 8/18/2011 1:44:39 AM

hi bo!
by lillymunster 8/18/2011 1:47:28 AM

Getting ready to fly out in 5-6 hours, but here for a while!
by bo 8/18/2011 1:49:51 AM

@bo peter left a brief reply to the question you forwarded here this morning. Should be part way down the page
by lillymunster 8/18/2011 1:51:11 AM

Thanks lilly, I'll go find it and forward it to the questioner.
by bo 8/18/2011 1:51:53 AM

And thanks @Peter Melzer
by bo 8/18/2011 2:03:16 AM

good night - for good - for now ;)

@bo have a healthy time
by Vivre 8/18/2011 2:19:55 AM

@Vivre have a good nite! :-)
by lillymunster 8/18/2011 2:21:18 AM

@Majj @Majj I changed my opinion on KAN, once he is gone, the PRO Nuke subsidized nomination will make it worse, i believe, we will see many more NUKE power plants come online fast.
by Veenie 8/18/2011 2:21:41 AM

Nite all!

@Bo, have a safe trip! :-)
by lillymunster 8/18/2011 2:57:07 AM

Wednesday, August 17, 2011
US Government Considered Evacuation of 90,000 US Citizens in Tokyo
According to Kevin Maher, a US diplomat and the former director of the Japan Desk at the US State Department in Japan, the US government considered evacuating all 90,000 US citizens in Tokyo right after the Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant accident..... ....If the plan to evacuate 90,000 Americans had been carried out, it could have triggered reactions from other foreign governments, and caused panic among the Japanese. ...... .....It's very heart-warming to know they left 90,000 US citizens in Tokyo under the radioactive plume, which literally rained on them on March 15, 16 and 21, for the sake of "alliance", isn't it? ........... ex-skf.blogspot.com
by Majj 8/18/2011 3:04:47 AM