
@lilly and @Panserbjorne9 and @Vivre thanks!
by bo 8/18/2011 3:37:48 AM

@joniver @tomo-kun I remember in the early days @radioguy converted a;; the water they were pouring into reactors etc into olympic size pools and if I remember he said about the same as bloomberg are saying now so nothing has changed
methinks their 'roadmap' is nothing more than plans for a roundabout
by elainekirk 8/18/2011 8:44:14 AM

@Mona when human life plays second fiddle to political whim you have to wonder...
by elainekirk 8/18/2011 8:58:48 AM

twitter
前橋水質浄化センター8000ベクレル超えるセシウム検出。放射線量高い為、施設は閉鎖。周辺放射線管理区域指定。
たまたまここは正直に発表しただけで、実は東日本は何処でもこの程度のひどい汚染状態なのかもしれないなぁ。前橋の水飲めないじゃん
Cesium Becquerel discovered more than 8000 water purification centers Maebashi. Because of the high radiation dose, the facility closed. Given radiation controlled area nearby.
This happens not only announced honest, I actually may be the eastern states this level of gross pollution anywhere. Water Maebashi 飲Menaijan
by elainekirk 8/18/2011 9:02:38 AM

#1 drywell b radiation [Sv/h] new records
8/17 17:00 416
8/18 5:00 412
8/18 11:00 340
by Edano 8/18/2011 10:02:42 AM


i have to adjust the scale now.

Japan-made decontamination unit to begin operationTokyo Electric Power Company, or TEPCO, will begin operation of a new Japan-made decontamination unit as early as Thursday afternoon at its troubled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.
Full-fledged operations follow after a successful test run that started on Tuesday.
The new unit consists of 14 cylindrical tanks containing a mineral called zeolite, which absorbs cesium and other radioactive substances.
Cleaning radioactive water from reactors in a stable manner is among the most urgent issues to bring the ongoing nuclear accident under control. The decontaminated water is injected back into the reactors to cool them.
The existing decontamination system has been plagued with trouble, and its foreign-made components have repeatedly failed. This has brought the system's operating rate down to 69 percent, far below the initial target of 90 percent.
TEPCO plans to use the existing system along with the new one. The utility hopes the new unit will help achieve stable circulatory cooling of the reactors.
Thursday, August 18, 2011 12:41 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp by Edano 8/18/2011 10:08:39 AM


@Edano are you still here need help
by elainekirk 8/18/2011 11:31:28 AM

iopscience.iop.org what does this study conclude I want to be 100% sure it says no dose is safe
by elainekirk 8/18/2011 11:41:11 AM

@Mona I am finding more and more evidenctial references to the generational impact of low dose radiation
by elainekirk 8/18/2011 11:42:47 AM

Morning! (afternoon-evening)
by lillymunster 8/18/2011 11:42:52 AM

@elainekirk I haven't found any studies on generational impacts yet in the ones I found & read so far. I have been grabbing the links for any I see posted here and put them in the research page but haven't started reading them all yet.
by lillymunster 8/18/2011 11:44:15 AM

@lillymunster lilly can you look at the one below see
by elainekirk 8/18/2011 11:44:44 AM

@elainekirk The IOP, have open, will look at and save into our list.
by lillymunster 8/18/2011 11:45:14 AM

@Majj good morning lovely to see you :)
by elainekirk 8/18/2011 11:48:44 AM

There is a sudden flooding of Japanese people with the health benefits of low dose radiation .
there is no evidence for this it is a spawning of the ICRP a few years ago that had no evidential basis but is widely quoted and we need to counteract it
by elainekirk 8/18/2011 11:50:25 AM

@elainekirk The link you posted is a book report of the NCRP report. The book report itself is valuable, it condenses large parts of the report. What the NRCP is saying is that the evidence for completely dismissing low dose impacts is not there. The evidence for low dose impacts is mixed, leaning towards yes, it does matter but things like natural background radiation may not be enough or proven enough. It sounds like the lower dose ranges like that from medical scans and ongoing low doses like incurred by a nuclear worker under normal conditions are conclusive enough to make a connection in those cases. It didn't cover multi-generational in the book report but the actual paper might and they just didn't mention it. It sounds like the report does get into the genetic mutations that kick off cancer.
We need to see if we can get a copy of the report. The page says the report is $50. we need to see if it is free onlline anywhere (or cheaper) if we can't find that maybe a used copy cheap on ebay? I have a feed scanner and could cut a book apart and set the scanner to do its thing.
by lillymunster 8/18/2011 12:01:48 PM

Abstracts or summaries of that NCRP report could also be useful
by lillymunster 8/18/2011 12:02:29 PM

@Pedro Jesus @lillymunster ok lilly I will try source it @pedro yes
by elainekirk 8/18/2011 12:36:18 PM

The Hanford articles are up for review. I was going to give another 24 hours for feedback. If people want more time to review them please let me know and I can bump the date further.
wp.mewp.mewp.mewp.meby lillymunster 8/18/2011 12:36:30 PM

Gov't eyes lifting ban on beef shipments from Fukushima, MiyagiTOKYO, Aug. 18, Kyodo
english.kyodonews.jp by Edano 8/18/2011 12:42:25 PM

bang
by Edano 8/18/2011 12:42:31 PM

japan is a self-decontaminating country.
by Edano 8/18/2011 12:46:16 PM

@Edano ENENEWS is now reporting the story you broke. :-)
enenews.comby lillymunster 8/18/2011 12:53:11 PM

greetings to all
by dean 8/18/2011 12:54:24 PM

@lillymunster
pbadupws.nrc.gov is that a bit more comprehensive?
by elainekirk 8/18/2011 12:55:52 PM

@lillymunster yes, bo spreads it. but there is no link to the data i compiled. they should look at the graphics .....
by Edano 8/18/2011 12:57:08 PM

Some Fukushima parents & kids spending time in Oregon
today.msnbc.msn.comby lillymunster 8/18/2011 12:59:18 PM

@Edano yea I agree. I wonder if I emailed Daria over at RT if she would add a link on their web story page?
by lillymunster 8/18/2011 12:59:50 PM

@lillymunster why not ?
by Edano 8/18/2011 1:00:14 PM