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  • Worker tweets Happy20790
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    Two more: the large grounds of the campus is really not all around but could not have been done a long time from end to end. I'm running during dump and disagree, eh not come into any premises dump units per day? What I thought
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    6 more: roads around the manhole and I was depressed .... What home after the second step ...? Soon it's impossible. First and decontamination, is working to revive public facilities lifeline, I'm back for the first time residents have been restored and shops.
    7 continued: But before that the first condition is the reference value or not affect Toka Janaku radioactive material, it's not out of the primary can also 微量Tari.
    by elainekirk 8/22/2011 11:34:32 AM

  • @Edano Regarding devastating tsunami, the 1896 Meiji-Sanriku earthquake off Iwate produced one of Japan's most devastating tsunami. That is not so long ago.
    by Will 8/22/2011 11:36:17 AM

  • @ Bo in Italy ;-)))))) The journalist does not reveal what are the sources of news. Only applies only: Fukushima engineers say that the soil beneath the plant is being cracked and released radioactive steam from the cracks. It discusses with Robert Jacobs, a professor at Hiroshima Peace Institute. Jacobs says in essence: it is a worrying development. Probably the strong aftershocks of recent days have caused broken pipes and underground facilities (Fukushima cellars are full of radioactive water ), and the radioactive water is opening a road into the ground.
    Adds: nuclear fuel from the reactor zone came out and ended up in the "containment vessel", the concrete bunker that houses the reactors themselves.
    Time pressure, temperature and radiation decrease does not mean that the radioactivity has suddenly disappeared, but that the molten core - the corium - is moving . As a result of strong aftershocks, may lie in the ground outside the buildings, and this may be the source of radioactive steam. translate.google.com
    by Majj 8/22/2011 11:37:21 AM

  • @elainekirk Regarding the inspection on KK #7, it says on the article that it is a scheduled inspection. Inspections are scheduled years in advance. No relation to the present conditions nor to the March earthquake. One of our experts can confirm this.
    by Pedro Jesus 8/22/2011 11:43:44 AM

  • @Pedro Jesus I was merely commenting on the fact that kk now has 5 reactors shut down which would not be a normal occurance I would imagine
    by elainekirk 8/22/2011 11:46:08 AM

  • must go shower have to venture out soon
    by elainekirk 8/22/2011 11:46:38 AM

  • @elainekirk I was out of context then. I was checking the news and following the chronology of the comments. I apologize.
    by Pedro Jesus 8/22/2011 11:47:47 AM

  • @elainekirk correct, that would not be a normal occurrance. I think the most I saw in any of the old documents were two down at a time.
    by lillymunster 8/22/2011 11:52:33 AM

  • Shaking the Corium
    5.9 Mw - NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN Location 36.108N 141.698E
    Depth 34 km
    Distances
    113 km (70 miles) ESE (104 degrees) of Mito, Honshu, Japan
    128 km (80 miles) SE (146 degrees) of Iwaki, Honshu, Japan
    182 km (113 miles) ENE (74 degrees) of TOKYO, Japan
    Location Uncertainty Horizontal: 14.3 km; Vertical 5.8 km
    by Majj 8/22/2011 11:53:26 AM

  • www.jma.go.jp
    only a 3 seismic activity and a 2 in fukushima www.jma.go.jp

    by Edano via Jma.go.jp 8/22/2011 11:56:10 AM

  • www.jma.go.jp nothing in fuku

    by Edano via Jma.go.jp 8/22/2011 11:58:21 AM

  • @lillymunster Would you call a 9.0 earthquake a normal occurrence?
    by Pedro Jesus 8/22/2011 12:01:30 PM

  • @Pedro Jesus that is a strange question. Normal in what sense?
    by lillymunster 8/22/2011 12:06:52 PM

  • @lillymunster You tell me. What did you mean by normal? As in usual?
    by Pedro Jesus 8/22/2011 12:09:32 PM

  • @Pedro Jesus where did I say this?
    by lillymunster 8/22/2011 12:11:52 PM

  • "correct, that would not be a normal occurrance. I think the most I saw in any of the old documents were two down at a time." Perhaps I didn't grasp the meaning of your comment. I thought you meant a normal procedure under usual circumstances. Could you clarify? Rescheduled inspections are normal under this specific, unusual circumstance. Germany has been rescheduling inspections in some nuclear power plants after the earthquake for safety reasons, for example. It is normal but not usual (fortunately).
    by Pedro Jesus 8/22/2011 12:16:29 PM

  • @Pedro Jesus ???
    by Edano 8/22/2011 12:18:26 PM

  • @Edano I'm trying to figure out what Elaine and Lilly are talking about.
    by Pedro Jesus 8/22/2011 12:19:36 PM

  • @Pedro Jesus at the moment no reactor under inspection can put into work again without stress test. this leads to the abnormal case that more than two blocks in KK are out of order. this has never happened before.
    by Edano 8/22/2011 12:22:08 PM

  • @Pedro Jesus reactors down for maintenance. Having 1 or 2 in a NPP complex down at one time is a normal situation. They shut down for maintenance or refueling. In all the document digging the most I have seen shut down at any one time is 1-2 for routine maintenance. I said nothing about the earthquakes at all. Not sure what you thought I said.
    by lillymunster 8/22/2011 12:23:13 PM

  • @Edano OK, that was what I was trying to understand from the Lilly's comment. Thanks. So what's the point Elaine was trying to make?
    by Pedro Jesus 8/22/2011 12:23:17 PM

  • @Pedro Jesus Basically I am saying that after the big quake in 07 took out kk that you would expect the safety upgrades done afterwards to have been sufficient to give confidence that they were able to carry out further upgrades without compromising the power supply to the extent of having 5 out of 7 reactors down for various reasons
    by elainekirk 8/22/2011 12:23:34 PM

  • @lillymunster what makes me ask how and why the hokkaido reactor was allowed to the grid without any stress test. anybody knows ?
    by Edano 8/22/2011 12:24:08 PM

  • @Edano I think the 'people' in this case the 'mayor' have the final say in whether reactors run or not
    by elainekirk 8/22/2011 12:25:19 PM

  • @elainekirk it is strange to hear that a mayor can overrule PM's decisions.
    by Edano 8/22/2011 12:27:13 PM

  • @elainekirk Well, but the upgrades do not prepare a NPP to withstand a 9.0 earthquake. We don't possess the technology to make any NPP 9.0-earthquake-proof. Reassessment is necessary and that's why at least Japan, England, Germany, Spain and U.S.A. have been rescheduling inspections in some or every nuclear power plants (taking into account the risk of a major earthquake in the vicinity of where each power plant stands).
    by Pedro Jesus 8/22/2011 12:28:09 PM

  • @Edano they were running in test mode during the quake and stayed there. So they were not actually shut down. Loophole that allowed them out of the required stress test inspection.
    by lillymunster 8/22/2011 12:29:50 PM

  • The gov. of Hokkaido has deep ties in the nuclear industry.
    by lillymunster 8/22/2011 12:30:07 PM

  • @lillymunster aah, that makes sense :)
    by Edano 8/22/2011 12:31:30 PM

  • @Pedro Jesus The US is rescheduling inspections? The only change has been constant arguing over changing the safety rules due to Fuku. Everything else has been full speed ahead. They asked NPP to review on paper their safety procedures and write a report. The NRC is still pushing to relicense old BWR units even when the local govt. has been fighting it.
    by lillymunster 8/22/2011 12:34:12 PM

  • Kan had this to say on decisions about stress test compliance: kansblog.kantei.go.jp
    "As for the results of the assessments, which will require one or two months, upon receiving reporting from the electrical power providers, procedures will be followed whereby first NISA, and subsequently here again the NSC, will confirm adequacy in meeting the standards. Upon receiving the judgment of experts from these multiple institutions, four Cabinet members, including myself, will consult, and after hearing the views of the local community, a final decision will be taken."
    by es 8/22/2011 12:36:18 PM

  • Can we officially write off this "newspaper" as a bogus source of information?

    "Extraterrestrials: Fukushima linked to an inter-dimensional war suggest Pagan Gnostic and indigenous insights"
    www.agoracosmopolitan.com
    by lillymunster 8/22/2011 12:37:53 PM

  • @lillymunster pmsl I would say so :) out for awhile daughter has retail fever again :)
    by elainekirk 8/22/2011 12:38:46 PM

  • @lillymunster I had read months ago that all US NPPs which were applying for re-licensing must be reinspected before re-license is granted. I don't know the current situation now. News agencies have gone silent about it, AFAIK. Same situation in Spain. They had passed a resolution to expand the operation of old NPPs that were scheduled for decommission but reverted the decision after the Fukushima accident. They will have to be reinspected before the re-license can be granted.
    by Pedro Jesus 8/22/2011 12:40:16 PM

  • in germany there was no rescheduling either. the oldest were simply shut down. then they made a "stress test" and concluded that none will withstand a medium size plane crash. and then they made a schedule to shut them all down.
    by Edano 8/22/2011 12:43:34 PM

  • @Edano What is the chronology of those events? I though the stress test had been rescheduled after the earthquake. So they are decommissioning all old NPPs in Germany? That's good the know. Any news about the current nuclear policy? Is there a major change? Is Germany pulling out of nuclear power as has been ventilated in the media some time ago?
    by Pedro Jesus 8/22/2011 12:48:22 PM

  • DPJ decides to hold presidential election Aug. 29

    TOKYO, Aug. 22, Kyodo

    The ruling Democratic Party of Japan on Monday decided to hold its presidential election on Aug. 29 if current Prime Minister and DPJ President Naoto Kan offers to resign following the approval of two key bills by Friday.

    Kan has cited parliamentary passage of the government bond issuance and renewable energy bills as conditions for his resignation.

    Katsuya Okada, DPJ secretary general, said at a news conference that official campaigning for the leadership election will begin Saturday and the party is planning to hold a debate among the presidential candidates on Sunday afternoon. english.kyodonews.jp
    by Edano 8/22/2011 12:48:53 PM

  • Who's who of DPJ leaders may run for party president [21 August, 2011]: www.asahi.com
    by es 8/22/2011 12:51:01 PM

  • @Pedro Jesus yes, of course, they made a bill and it has passed both houses. will be hard to change the course again. the 7 oldest plants were shut down immediately on monday after the earthquake and will never work again.
    by Edano 8/22/2011 12:51:26 PM

  • DPJ eyes election on Aug. 29 / Timing depends on passage of 2 bills prime minister has tied to departure [22 August, 2011]: www.yomiuri.co.jp
    by es 8/22/2011 12:53:08 PM

  • @Edano That's great news.
    by Pedro Jesus 8/22/2011 12:53:33 PM

  • by Edano via Marjana-schott.de 8/22/2011 12:56:03 PM

  • oops, wrong picture. sorry
    by Edano 8/22/2011 12:56:57 PM

  • this is the decommissioning plan of the green party. complete shut down until 2013.
    by Edano 8/22/2011 12:58:12 PM

  • i hoped to find a table, but no.
    by Edano 8/22/2011 1:01:51 PM

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