Japan Earthquake

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hi dean
by elainekirk 9/28/2011 11:34:06 PM

For the love of God, when is the world going to admit that nuclear energy requires perfection!? And Entergy is a major example of a culture of corporate evil.
by M.I.A. 9/28/2011 11:35:29 PM

@M.I.A. they all are they wouldnt know a moral if it smacked them round the face
by elainekirk 9/28/2011 11:36:59 PM

Well, we'll have to keep swinging the bat and hope we hit the pinata soon
by M.I.A. 9/28/2011 11:38:02 PM

@M.I.A. have you read the nrc emails elaine posted?
by lillymunster 9/28/2011 11:38:42 PM

@lillymunster have you seen the tepco admittance after much pushing from the gov that the fault line is now active after they kept insisting it was still dormant
by elainekirk 9/28/2011 11:40:01 PM

@elainekirk no! must go look
by lillymunster 9/28/2011 11:40:33 PM

www.tepco.co.jp

Press Release (Sep 28,2011)
Implementation of Boring and Trenching Survey on Yunotake Fault
by elainekirk 9/28/2011 11:43:24 PM

@elainekirk So why is TEPCO doing the seismic geological work? That sounds like something their geological service should be doing.
by lillymunster 9/28/2011 11:49:10 PM

Hmm, my calculations are that cesium from steam is 3X the amount dumped directly into the water that would have gone on land if the plant or wind were elsewhere: 100,000 per cubic meter is a bunch more than 30k per square meter, especially since the land amount is only a thin layer of dust, but the water amount is from surface to bottom of the sea. No way to clean up water the way Khalili was cleaning up a land site. Does the stuff eventually settle into the mud, or keep floating around for years? green.blogs.nytimes.com
Japanese government and utility industry scientists estimated this
month that 3,500 terabecquerels of cesium 137 was released directly
into the sea from March 11, the date of the earthquake and tsunami, to
late May. Another 10,000 terabecquerels of cesium 137 made it into the
ocean after escaping from the plant as steam.<p>

... the Fukushima disaster appeared to be by far the largest
accidental release of radioactive material into the sea.
Chernobyl-induced radiation in the Black Sea peaked in 1986 at about
1,000 becquerels per cubic meter, he said in an interview at his
office in Woods Hole, Mass. By contrast, the radiation level off the
coast near the Fukushima Daiichi plant peaked at more than 100,000
becquerels per cubic meter in early April. <P>

“Rather than leveling off toward zero, it remained elevated in late
July,’’ he said, up to about 10,000 becquerel per cubic meter. ‘‘That
suggests the release problem has not been solved yet.” <P>
by artnuke 9/28/2011 11:50:05 PM

Kan former aid talks about what was going on in the govt,
www.abc.net.au
by lillymunster 9/28/2011 11:53:14 PM

GOJ doc on the fault www.gsi.go.jp
by elainekirk 9/28/2011 11:53:26 PM

More admission that all the "everything is great" we have been fed for 6 months was total lies.

"He's accused the operator of the nuclear plant, TEPCO, of trying to play down the disaster. And he says the Japanese government knew right from the start that areas around the plant would be uninhabitable for 10 or even 20 years." From the ABC article
by lillymunster 9/28/2011 11:54:31 PM

ikrockhopper Itsumi Kakefuda
Kyushu EPCO ignored whistle-blowing emails coming before the fake support email incident in June bit.ly
by elainekirk 9/28/2011 11:56:41 PM

great doc on the Yunotake fault docs.google.com
by elainekirk 9/29/2011 12:07:16 AM

Seems to me that the volume of Fuku news and videos have taken a nose dive in the last two weeks.
by Ian 9/29/2011 12:07:53 AM

@Ian there were two robot videos out today, a bunch of photos last week, the NRC emails..
by lillymunster 9/29/2011 12:09:31 AM

@Ian yes I think the new pm frightened them at first so they played the lets flood em with 'info' game then realised that the crap was being accepted as 'tepco cooperation' so they just decided to revert to norm as is tepco's want
by elainekirk 9/29/2011 12:11:03 AM

@lillymunster yes but the pics were 5 & 6 / in 6 months we havent had proper ground pics / the videos were erm.. they just seem to have the art of making crap look like info
by elainekirk 9/29/2011 12:12:24 AM

@elainekirk Everyone that has been in the plant (media, IAEA) all have said it is so much worse in real life than the videos and photos say. TEPCO has been carefully editing what information goes out. Everyone knows the place is a wreck, TEPCO is still in backside covering mode.
by lillymunster 9/29/2011 12:15:19 AM

@lillymunster, as nice as enformable.com looks on the front page, the articles are not easy follow, he loads tons of irrelevant content up top, like a block keywords (as if that's the priority content). I perused some of the emails or a report, I couldn't tell, for a few minutes and couldn't figure what was important about them. Was there any nugget in them?
by Ian 9/29/2011 12:16:58 AM

@elainekirk, interesting I didn't notice that effect of the new pm, but that brief flood seems timed right.
by Ian 9/29/2011 12:18:33 AM

@dean how was the meeting ?
by Edano 9/29/2011 12:21:04 AM

Density of hydrogen at No.1 reactor over 60%

The operator of the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant says that high densities of hydrogen have built up in pipes connected to the No. 1 reactor.

Tokyo Electric Power Company says that an explosion is unlikely as there is no oxygen in the pipes, but that it will begin work to drain the gas starting on Thursday.

TEPCO began measuring the density of the gas on Wednesday after finding it accumulating in pipes connected to the reactor's containment vessel late last week.

It found that the density of hydrogen was high, at between 61 to 63 percent.

TEPCO says the hydrogen is likely the remains of gas that caused explosions at the plant in March, following the quake and tsunami disaster.

The utility has also promised to check the density of hydrogen in pipes in the No. 2 and No. 3 reactors, in line with instructions from Japan's nuclear safety agency.

Thursday, September 29, 2011 08:06 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp
by Edano 9/29/2011 12:24:13 AM

ooopsi..
by Edano 9/29/2011 12:25:09 AM

@Ian these are the emails in their pure form
1- 368 pages pbadupws.nrc.gov
2 - 563 pages pbadupws.nrc.gov
3 - 168 pages pbadupws.nrc.gov
Using those link you can do a control+f search for keywords I havent done one yet but will when I have time
by elainekirk 9/29/2011 12:25:59 AM

Japan to postpone test to restart Menu reactor

The Japanese government is postponing a test-run of an experimental fast-breeder nuclear reactor due to uncertainty over the future of the country's nuclear energy policy.

The Monju fast-breeder reactor uses plutonium extracted from spent nuclear fuel to generate power. It is seen as a prototype for Japan's next-generation nuclear power plant.

The government aimed to conduct a test to raise the reactor's output to 40 percent of its capacity by the end of next March.

However, in the wake of the accident at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, Japan's Atomic Energy Commission has begun reviewing the country's long term energy policy.
A new policy outline will be compiled over the next 12 months.

Science and technology ministry officials on Friday will meet officials from Tsuruga City and Fukui Prefecture, which host the fast-breeder reactor, to explain the state's decision not to test-run Monju for the time being.

Monju has been suspended for more than 2 years due to a technical problem. The trouble occurred only 3 months after it resumed operation following a 14-year shutdown caused by a leakage of sodium coolant in 1995.

Thursday, September 29, 2011 08:05 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp
by Edano 9/29/2011 12:27:42 AM

@Edano they can't be allowed to start that ancient machine up surely the people will revolt ...then again we are still a couple of yrs away from the people realising what has happened and what it means
by elainekirk 9/29/2011 12:35:46 AM

monju is toast imho.
by Edano 9/29/2011 12:38:34 AM

@Edano as far as I know fast-breeder technology never went on after an experimental one in Germany...
by skibboy 9/29/2011 12:38:45 AM

@skibboy oh, france has one or two...
by Edano 9/29/2011 12:39:16 AM

@Ian I gave up trying to muck through Enformable and instead found someone on Daily Kos that had been picking out the actual info in each emai. I am going to start going through the NRC docs directly tonight/tomorrow. Will use the NRC ones for whatever gets put on the group website.
The Kos author who has emails sorted http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/09/23/1019711/-Fukushima-Docs:-NOT-A-DRILL?via=blog_598858
www.dailykos.com
by lillymunster 9/29/2011 12:39:39 AM

@Edano in Germany, I mean, and they know why..
by skibboy 9/29/2011 12:40:22 AM

@skibboy ah, yes that's correct.
by Edano 9/29/2011 12:41:08 AM

@lillymunster, thanks! Lol, 'muck through', yeah. It's got potential, but has some design issues.
by Ian 9/29/2011 12:42:09 AM

@Edano France is promoting every nuclear sh.te..
by skibboy 9/29/2011 12:42:19 AM

Germany

Germany has built two FBRs.

KNK-II as a Research reactor was converted from a thermal reactor, KNK-I, which had been used to study sodium cooling. KNK-II first achieved criticality as a fast reactor in 1977, and produced 20MWe.[23] It was shut down in 1991 and is being dismantled[24]

Construction of the 300MWe SNR-300 at Kalkar in North Rhine-Westphalia was completed in 1985 but never operated. The price had exploded from 0.5 billion DM to 7.1 billion DM, the Three Mile Island accident had heightened public opposition to nuclear power, and the expected increase in electricity consumption had not occurred. The plant was maintained and staffed until a decision to close it was finally made in 1991, and has since been decommissioned. Today it houses an amusement park (Wunderland Kalkar). en.wikipedia.org
by Edano 9/29/2011 12:43:29 AM

@Edano see, lol
by skibboy 9/29/2011 12:45:12 AM

France

France's first fast reactor, Rapsodie first achieved criticality in 1967. Built at Cadarache near Aix-en-Provence, Rapsodie was a loop-type reactor with a thermal output of 40MW and no electrical generation facilities, and closed in 1983. The plant was also a focus point of anti-nuclear political activity by the Green party and other groups. Right wing groups claim the plant was shut down for political reasons and not lack of power generation.

This was followed by the 233 MWe Phénix, grid connected since 1973, both as a power reactor and more importantly as the center of work on reprocessing of nuclear waste by transmutation. It was definitely shut down in 2009.[17] The life-time load factor was just below 40 per cent, according to the IAEA data base PRIS.[18][19][20][21]

Superphénix, 1200 MWe, entered service in 1984 and as of 2006 remains the largest FBR yet built. It was shut down in 1998[22] due to political commitment of the left-wing government to competitive market forces. The power plant had not produced electricity for most of the preceding ten years. The life time load factor was 7.79 percent according to IAEA. en.wikipedia.org
by Edano 9/29/2011 12:45:59 AM

I am not finding any emails for March 11-19 in those NRC PDFs. Am I missing them?
by lillymunster 9/29/2011 12:47:10 AM

I will go look lilly
by elainekirk 9/29/2011 12:48:24 AM

@Edano the names are crazy already..
by skibboy 9/29/2011 12:50:00 AM

hmmm, if i am not mistaken, there is not a single breeder reactor online at the moment .... en.wikipedia.org ... they all failed.
by Edano 9/29/2011 12:51:00 AM