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  • @sims, I am not surprised about the Soviets. They tended to muster a cavalier attitude. But you would think that a small country like Japan would want to distribute the risk more.
    by Peter Melzer 4/14/2011 10:37:55 PM

  • Japan tsunami and earthquakes fatalities list per prefecture : Fukushima
    April 14, 2011 at 3:01 pm by By Armand Vervaeck
    Earthquake-Report is sad to publish this list of the deceased of FUKUSHIMA prefecture. Earthquake-Report thoughts are with the family and friends of the below listed people, young and old. The current list includes approx. 667 names of merely Tsunami victims
    The list was published by 47news in Japan and is based on official police data.
    earthquake-report.com
    by Tenzing 4/14/2011 10:41:27 PM

  • @Peter it's more a general trend towards bigger reactors.. all 4 reactors at Fukushima Daini were the same spec as Daiichi 6... and for example the new Areva EPR reactor is rated at 1.6 GW
    by sims 4/14/2011 10:41:31 PM

  • A friend in Hiroshima tweeted: "student told me her father is working in the Fukushima plant getting water on the reactor and taking away contaminated water (as are many fire fighters in Japan apparently- they are on rotation) He has been there 2 times since the problem began, her family and everyone is hugely worried about him of course, haven't seen or heard anything about this in the news."
    by bo 4/14/2011 10:43:51 PM

  • Removing highly toxic water remains difficult task at nuke plant

    TOKYO, April 14, Kyodo

    The government's nuclear safety agency on Thursday continued to grapple with pools of highly radioactive water at the crisis-hit Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, as the level of polluted water filling an underground trench edged up again after it finished pumping out around 660 tons of water.

    The removal of around 60,000 tons of contaminated water from the basements of the Nos. 1 to 3 reactor turbine buildings as well as trenches connected to them is vital because the water is hampering work to restore the cooling functions of the reactors lost since the March 11 earthquake and ensuing tsunami.

    The pools of contaminated water are believed to be a side effect of plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co.'s emergency efforts to continue injecting water into the reactors and their spent nuclear fuel pools from outside to cool them down.

    The operator known as TEPCO pumped out around 660 tons of highly radioactive water Tuesday and Wednesday from one of the trenches to a ''condenser'' inside the nearby No. 2 reactor turbine building, where during normal operation steam from the reactor is converted into water.

    But the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said that the water level in the vertical part of the trench as of 11 a.m. Thursday had increased by about 4.5 centimeters from the level observed at 6 p.m. Wednesday.

    The level of the water is now only 1.5 centimeters lower than shortly before the water-transfer mission started at 7:35 p.m. Tuesday.

    Hidehiko Nishiyama, the agency's spokesman, told a morning press conference that the rise in the water level is likely linked to the continued injection of water into the No. 2 reactor core, which is necessary to prevent the nuclear fuel inside from overheating.

    ''As there is believed to be around 20,000 tons of water (in the No. 2 reactor turbine building and the trench connected to it), we're feeling the difficulty of lowering the level of the water in a stable manner,'' he said.

    TEPCO is preparing to transfer more of the highly radioactive water into a facility for nuclear waste disposal at the plant, which can accommodate 30,000 tons of liquid.

    Work is under way to ensure that the facility will be able to contain highly radioactive water safely without fear of the stored liquid leaking outside, but Nishiyama told the press conference that he was not sure when it will end.

    The water in and around the No. 2 reactor turbine building is believed to contain higher concentrations of radioactive substances than other contaminated water found at the site, and is believed to originate from the No. 2 reactor's core, where fuel rods have partially melted.

    The agency decided to remove water from the trench first as it feared that the water inside the trench would overflow and leak into the Pacific Ocean.

    TEPCO also started looking into how to check the quake resistance of already heavily damaged reactor buildings at the site in line with an order issued Wednesday by the nuclear regulatory agency, in light of strong aftershocks from the March 11 quake.

    The agency has told the utility to immediately examine the buildings and consider reinforcement work if they are judged as not sufficiently quakeproof.

    TEPCO, however, has said that it cannot ''immediately conduct an investigation'' unless it confirms the safety of areas where checks will be conducted.

    To enhance preparation for tsunami waves triggered by aftershocks and other emergency situations, emergency diesel power generators and vehicle-mounted power sources are to be placed at higher ground, while backup units for water injection at the troubled Nos. 1 to 3 reactors are expected to be installed, according to the nuclear agency.

    Meanwhile, concern grew over the state of the No. 3 reactor at one point, as the agency said in the afternoon that the temperature of part of its reactor pressure vessel was found to be rising suddenly.

    But TEPCO officials said that the data were likely due to a glitch in a measuring instrument, because other temperature data related to the vessel has not shown a similar rise.

    ==Kyodo english.kyodonews.jp
    by Edano 4/14/2011 10:49:27 PM

  • @bo I( hope they know how many people are thinking of them
    by elainekirk 4/14/2011 10:51:36 PM

  • TOKYO - Japan’s fragile post-disaster political truce unravelled on Thursday as the head of the main opposition party called on unpopular Prime Minister Naoto Kan to quit over his handling of the country’s natural calamities and a nuclear crisis. Calls grow for Japan PM to quit in wake of quake
    By LINDA SIEG AND MAYUMI NEGISHI, REUTERS
    Last Updated: April 14, 2011 3:05am www.calgarysun.com
    by Tenzing 4/14/2011 10:55:57 PM

  • @Bobby I think you were asking about some of the isotopes being released. I was thinking earlier that it would be good to look up reactivities of the metals, especially. Given where they are on the periodic table, strontium and cesium wouldn't stick around long when exposed to air and water. So when I got home, I did a little searching and came up with the following (not necessarily the best sources, but they're a starting point for reference):
    Stontium reactivity en.wikipedia.org
    cesium reactivity: www.webelements.com

    The latter link backs up what I had mentioned earlier (I think maybe on the other chat-board) about cesium being reactive with halogen like iodine. If you were producing both elements in situ (sans water) I'd think cesium iodide would be a likely product, and I'd have to think strontim iodide would also be likely.
    by pj 4/14/2011 11:24:22 PM

  • www.japanprobe.com The Official 2:46 Quakebook Blog www.quakebook.org

    by Tenzing via Japanprobe 4/14/2011 11:25:11 PM

  • @bo That is the kind of thing that should make it into the media and news stories.
    by Nancy 4/14/2011 11:32:59 PM

  • @Nancy NHK wanted you to look at physics forum (link pinned on other page). They're talking about you again...:)
    by marie rich 4/14/2011 11:35:16 PM

  • @Edano Yet another "glitch in a measuring instrument"? Hmmm.
    by James Ward 4/14/2011 11:38:06 PM

  • @James Ward : just a glitch, no threat to human health.
    by Edano 4/14/2011 11:39:21 PM

  • @ Dean My be the number 4 is a plant for the reprocessing of radioactive waste (recovery) of Pu-239 for use as MOX (mixed plutonium and uranium oxide) in the reactors because uranium enrichment is expensive and is also an expensive process. So it's better (cheaper) to use the MOX mixture containing uranium depleted more and more content in plutonium. The enrichment plants in the West, have been almost 20 years ago are totally abandoned ...
    by Majjham Zazen 4/14/2011 11:51:29 PM

  • lots of speculation going around on #4 reactor right now Majjham time will tell
    by dean 4/14/2011 11:53:18 PM

  • @Majjham Zazen But they have a huge enrichment plant at Rokkasho, why do it on a small, but still difficult and expensive scale on site?
    by marie rich 4/14/2011 11:54:41 PM

  • Has this been posted? SRS equipment headed to Japan
    Help to stabilize damaged nuclear reactors at Fukushima chronicle.augus ,,,,,,ta.com
    by NHK Listener edited by elainekirk 4/14/2011 11:55:40 PM

  • Japan Mulls to Move Capital over Disaster Worries www.novinite.com
    by NHK Listener 4/14/2011 11:57:48 PM

  • @nhk that srs post is good news:)
    by elainekirk 4/14/2011 11:58:20 PM

  • @elainekirk Yeah pretty interesting. chronicle.augusta.com
    by NHK Listener 4/15/2011 12:00:19 AM

  • A group of Japanese doctors on Friday urged workers at the Fukushima nuclear plant to have their blood stemcells stored as a safeguard should they be exposed to life-threatening levels of radiation.


    www.deccanchronicle.com
    by JMV 4/15/2011 12:00:40 AM

  • R-56 diagram: A high-tech, self-contained piece of equipment known as a “Radioactive Liquid Transport Assembly,” or LR-56, is being sent to Japan to help government officials who are monitoring contamination levels in the vicinity of the Fukushima nuclear power plant. From the link below
    by NHK Listener 4/15/2011 12:01:08 AM

  • More background documents on BWR Severe Accidents & Spent Fuel Pool Accidents via US DOE site. Not sure if these have been posted previously. (Showing links to search results page.).
    There are more papers on the site that look useful.

    1) Identification and assessment of containment and release management strategies for a BWR Mark I containment - published 1991
    (Units 1 - 4 are Mark-1s)
    www.osti.gov

    2) BWR REACTOR VESSEL BOTTOM HEAD FAILURE MODES
    (with a section on Debris Bed Formation in the BWR Lower Plenum)
    www.osti.gov
    Page 9 has an interesting summary of timing for events during station blackout.

    3) Loss of Spent Fuel Cooling PRA: Model & Results
    scenarios with spent fuel pools tryout
    www.osti.gov

    4) posted previously IDENTIFICATION AND ASSESSMENT OF BWR IN-VESSEL SEVERE ACCIDENT MITIGATION STRATEGIES with timelines for failures.
    These underscore that really serious damage occurred early on.
    by Deirdre 4/15/2011 12:05:15 AM

  • good posting Deirdre
    by dean 4/15/2011 12:15:44 AM

  • @NHK Listener one of the videos on the pumpers trucks quoted the price of a new one, (these are slightly used) is 2.1mill plus 1.2 for freight..... and TEPCO now ownes them 3.3 mill a pumper
    by fitter 4/15/2011 12:16:56 AM

  • Hey I lost my avitar...and been missing out on some news. I been reading some med docs and the Cla tach Intitute info on Fukushima... long and detailed... Dean were you posting on the Physics blog?
    by carabnr 4/15/2011 12:17:55 AM

  • Japan Emperor's First Trip to Disaster Zone
    www.time.com
    by Reed 4/15/2011 12:17:57 AM

  • not lately Carabnr
    by dean 4/15/2011 12:18:19 AM

  • More time needed to build tanks to hold wastewater www3.nhk.or.jp "TEPCO plans to build more tanks to hold 27-thousand tons of wastewater by the end of May."l
    by Markfm 4/15/2011 12:18:48 AM

  • So is #4 in trouble?
    by carabnr 4/15/2011 12:19:27 AM

  • Japan automakers planning to check radioactivity -- new meaning to "hot rod"
    by Markfm 4/15/2011 12:19:51 AM

  • Any thoughts on flying for prolonged periods right now?
    by carabnr 4/15/2011 12:24:05 AM

  • 4 seems to be fairly hot, but I haven't heard of anything really bad
    by Markfm 4/15/2011 12:24:21 AM

  • NHK: TEPCO says it is difficult to determine when the work to restore reactor cooling systems at the damaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant will begin. The company says more time is needed to install makeshift water tanks to hold highly radioactive water.       
    by Markfm 4/15/2011 12:32:33 AM

  • @Markfm However, TEPCO plans to build more tanks to hold 27-thousand tons of wastewater by the end of May.
    by NHK Listener 4/15/2011 12:34:33 AM

  • However, TEPCO plans to build more tanks to hold 27-thousand tons of wastewater by the end of May. www3.nhk.or.jp
    by NHK Listener 4/15/2011 12:35:02 AM

  • @marie rich en.wikipedia.org QUOTE from the linked site: "In June 2008, several scientists stated that the Rokkasho plant is sited directly above an active geological fault line that could produce a magnitude 8 earthquake. But Japan Nuclear Fuel Limited have stated that there was no reason to fear an earthquake of more than magnitude 6.5 at the site, and that the plant could withstand a 6.9 quake.[8][9]" Sounds familiar, doesn't it?
    by James Ward 4/15/2011 12:36:53 AM

  • I know, but it's probably depressing to let people put 2 + 2 together
    by Markfm 4/15/2011 12:37:05 AM

  • @James Ward It's a seriously big contaminent storage/spent fuel/enrichment facility. It's the first thing I thought of when I heard about the EQ. Scary...
    by marie rich 4/15/2011 12:44:33 AM

  • @all 4.8 EQ 43 miles south of Fukushima a little over an hour ago.
    by LM 4/15/2011 12:57:36 AM

  • Fukushima sets faithful to spin mode
    James Norman From: The Australian April 11, 2011 12:00AM
    Then the long history of mismanagement, data falsification and cover-up that has been exposed in the global media of TEPCO, the company responsible for the Fukushima power plants, further exposed the nuclear industry to accusations of lack of proper transparency and international accountability.

    Despite all this (or perhaps because of it) the nuclear industry will be redoubling its efforts to continue and hasten the growth that occurred in capacity globally last year -- seen by many as the first year of the so-called nuclear renaissance.
    www.theaustralian.com.au
    by Tenzing 4/15/2011 1:03:58 AM

  • some waterfront crane action pointscope01.jp

    by NHK Listener via Pointscope01.jp 4/15/2011 1:14:10 AM

  • When the Fukushima Meltdown Hits Groundwater By Dr. Tom Burnett March 27, 2011
    hawaiinewsdaily.com Fukushima is going to dwarf Chenobyl.
    by Cat 4/15/2011 1:14:29 AM

  • @Jim Carver You've been working so hard on this! I appreciate all you do. Take care
    by marie rich 4/15/2011 1:14:32 AM

  • the last time I read an article from that Hawaii news paper it was bogus
    by carabnr 4/15/2011 1:19:49 AM

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