fuku radiation over germany. from @RadioGuy's link. look at the chernobl hotspots in southern germany.
by Edano 8/18/2011 6:00:38 PM
@Edano I was just watching that. Fascinating use of the technology.
by RadioGuy 8/18/2011 6:04:01 PM
@Edano that is scary and awesome at the same time
by elainekirk 8/18/2011 6:05:03 PM
@elainekirk @RadioGuy i can't really see anything declining with time.
by Edano 8/18/2011 6:05:36 PM
@Edano Not to mention the ability to watch the wind blow a wave across the country, some from Chernobyl, some from the West.
by RadioGuy 8/18/2011 6:05:48 PM
@lillymunster I am assuming you have found a rad map would it be useful to the Japanese? I wonder if you did point by point instructions and then they were translated??
by elainekirk 8/18/2011 6:07:31 PM
@Edano Yes, the "declining with time myth" is what the EPA was hoping for with their delay in monitoring, but there's been none, other than falloffs from the explosion and melt-through events. I wonder if we'll see the promised readings this month...or ever.
by RadioGuy 8/18/2011 6:07:46 PM
@RadioGuy i don't think the wind still brings cherno radiation. it's all from japan. only the static hotspots are from chernobyl.
by Edano 8/18/2011 6:07:47 PM
@Edano So it's Fuku to the right of me, Fuku to the left of me, volleyed and thundered, eh?
by RadioGuy 8/18/2011 6:09:04 PM
@RadioGuy it resides in the entire northern hemisphere, and the way over the north pole to germany is even shorter than west or east.
by Edano 8/18/2011 6:10:16 PM
@lillymunster some new notes to your Hanford pages Thank you - I newer heard about it before and found the article comfortably guided and easy to pick up :)
(copy&remove as pleased) ----------------------- part1 "These tanks are now many decades past their design life and up to 1/3 of them are now leaking."
when is now? 2011 or isn't the sourceinfo a bit older ?
---------- part2 "The installed filtration did not completely eliminate radioactive releases."
I suspect those filters couldn't eliminate but absorb or refrain radioactive emissions.
TABLE I I would enter an extra blank line to seperate the table from its intro.
Second table: the third column topic 'half-life' likes to become upper case ;)
---------- part4 "Those who ate fish caught caught near Richland,"
doubled word
"radiation doses forpeople near Hanford"
missing blank ----------------------------
by Vivre 8/18/2011 6:11:13 PM
@elainekirk Scary awesome is about right. It's a juxtaposition of terms we've been seeing lately, like the scary-awesome way the news just lost this story on a worldwide basis. @Edano That's what makes that video so scary... you see that it never really just quiets down much.
by RadioGuy 8/18/2011 6:11:38 PM
the hard to read legend says : 95% of max value is 0.126 microSv/h. doesn't scare me too much (berlin stays very dark :)).
by Edano 8/18/2011 6:12:58 PM
I'm off for a while while the thunderstorm still rolls over my head and a friend has arrived by now. :-)
by Vivre 8/18/2011 6:13:23 PM
is 0.1 mSv/h the figure we see on the counters people use ?
by elainekirk 8/18/2011 6:17:41 PM
Here's a map projection drawn from the data sets. It was done back in march, but since the dataset is still live, so is the map: jciv.iidj.net
by RadioGuy 8/18/2011 6:18:40 PM
@Vivre have fun
by elainekirk 8/18/2011 6:19:50 PM
@RadioGuywhat is nsv/h in comparison to msv/h?
by elainekirk 8/18/2011 6:21:31 PM
1 mSv/h = 1000 nSv/h
by RonD 8/18/2011 6:22:52 PM
@RonD so 100 nsv/h = ? .1msv/h?
by elainekirk 8/18/2011 6:24:14 PM
actually I'm off by a factor of 1000, nano = 1/billion, milli = 1/thousand, so 100 nSv/h = 0.0001 mSv/h
by RonD 8/18/2011 6:26:52 PM
So round fuku they reckon readings are .0001 msv/h??? jciv.iidj.net
by elainekirk 8/18/2011 6:28:48 PM
Just so the link is here and doesn't need to be dug out, here are Marion's open data sets: www.sendung.de
by RadioGuy 8/18/2011 6:29:47 PM
Stronium, now tritium found in the river outside Vermont Yankee rt.com
by lillymunster 8/18/2011 6:32:30 PM
@RadioGuy does that need pinning or is it going on the site?
by elainekirk 8/18/2011 6:34:57 PM
Why don't we pin it for now? I'll drop you a pinnable post next.
by RadioGuy 8/18/2011 6:39:42 PM
Here are Marian Steinbach's scraped Japanese radiation data sets: www.sendung.de
by RadioGuy 8/18/2011 6:39:50 PM
@lilly--some more edits:
by ariadne 8/18/2011 6:40:30 PM
oops! Part 1, in references: US to access the harm from Hanford www.seattlepi.com Change "access" to "assess" in title
by ariadne 8/18/2011 6:41:06 PM
@lilly--also that particular article is referenced twice, the second reference is about four down from the first, with a different url, but goes to the same place
by ariadne 8/18/2011 6:43:17 PM
Beyond Nuclear rep on RT saying he thinks the steam and readings = "china syndrome"
by lillymunster 8/18/2011 6:43:30 PM
@elainekirk looking at the map, the biggest number I see is 35000 nSv/h = 0.035 mSv/h at a place called Namie Machi Akougi Kunigidaira
Those brought me back to blog.safecast.org again. There are fairly new visualizations of their Safecasting drives through Fukushima over the past month.
by RadioGuy 8/18/2011 6:51:27 PM
we should use m for milli and y or u for micro
by Edano 8/18/2011 6:51:36 PM
@Edano I agree with your numbers, it takes 1 million nSv/h to get 1 mSv/h
by RonD 8/18/2011 6:51:56 PM
milli yes not micro :)
by Edano 8/18/2011 6:52:49 PM
@Edano yes we should probably u, though maybe y looks more like μ
by RadioGuy 8/18/2011 6:52:54 PM
@Edano @RadioGuy @Ron I am totally confused and cannot believe the highest reading around fuku is .o35
by elainekirk 8/18/2011 7:01:34 PM
@elainekirk if you look at the list version of the info jciv.iidj.net the biggest number I see is Fukushima Dai-ichi 313000 nSv/hr = 0.313 mSv/hr, not sure if this is level measured in air, ground
by RonD 8/18/2011 7:10:08 PM
@elainekirk if you look at the list view, you can click on Fukushima Dai-ichi www.tepco.co.jp and see a graph with the last 7 days or so of data. this is in uSv (micro)
by RonD 8/18/2011 7:16:55 PM
@ariadne Thanks! Grabbed the fixes so far, going to start updating. Deleting the posts to save space for everyone else. :-)
by lillymunster 8/18/2011 7:23:48 PM
@RonD ty
by elainekirk 8/18/2011 7:24:49 PM
@lillymunster do these need harvesting and if so to where ? www.tepco.co.jp
by elainekirk 8/18/2011 7:26:41 PM
@RonD @elainekirk When you pop up that 35uSv/hr location, it points out that the normal values are .037 to .046 uSv/hr so it's 1,000 times normal.