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@Edano @lillymunster Did you ever find any info/refs/pics locating the drywell sensors? I noticed in the latest SimplyInfo update on the high radiation figures in #1 a mention that, 'The drywell sensors are in the concrete containment bulb below the reactor pressure vessel.' All I've gathered is that the CAMS (Containment Atmospheric Monitoring System) detectors are somewhere outside of the containment and pumps suck two independent samples of air (Range A and Range B) from the drywell along pipes to external radiation detectors for evaluation, and that H2 and O2 concentration as well as gamma radioactivity is measured.
by es 8/18/2011 11:14:50 PM

@lillymunster There are a couple more suggested edits down below, from about 3 hours ago. Don't miss 'em! :)
by ariadne 8/18/2011 11:15:28 PM

@LM I dont know too much about these things but a desalination that could filter out all their junk would be a pretty tall order and tepco dont seem to worry about how much muck floats out of their sfp's so I cant see them being overly worried about what escapes the desalination
by elainekirk 8/18/2011 11:18:46 PM

@elainekirk I agree...a tall order indeed. At this point it seems they can get away with anything and not pay the consequences. The PR is impressive.
by LM 8/18/2011 11:21:22 PM

@ariadne I was so disturbed by the smiling cow that I missed them. :-)
by lillymunster 8/18/2011 11:32:31 PM

@es no, we never found the drywell sensors positions, though we searched for them. i think they might be different in each reactor.
by Edano 8/18/2011 11:33:13 PM

Hi Edano
thanks for the time warp vid ~ that really was a big joy to be transported to previous times
by Vivre 8/19/2011 12:40:57 AM

mmh ? elainekirk seems to have gone
I'm going to push that power button too and meet you in some hours
night busy lilly ;)
~ take care
by Vivre 8/19/2011 12:48:05 AM

A new paper in The Lancet on a precautionary medical procedure some experts recommend, but the Nuclear Safety Commission of Japan rejects. Key points:

"A clinically significant haemopoietic syndrome can occur after whole-body doses of 2 Gy or higher as a result of bone-marrow depression. If the haemopoietic cells are not completely damaged, a recovery phase can be enhanced through use of haemopoietic growth factors. In cases of radiation exposure of more than 5 Gy, haemopoietic stem-cell rescue is essential. […] On March 25, we proposed the collection and storage of autologous peripheral-blood stem cells (PBSCs) for the nuclear workers in Fukushima in case of accidental major radiation exposure [… But] The Nuclear Safety Commission of Japan, an advisory panel made up of non-government experts, reportedly stated that there is no need to collect and store autologous PBSCs."
www.thelancet.com
by Ian 8/19/2011 12:53:20 AM

@Vivre sorry got sidetracked rockhopper just tweeed another mainichi article translate.google.com
taken with the article below saying the plant is so safe you can toddle round it for a year and still be under the limit and you just have to wonder what they are up to
by elainekirk 8/19/2011 12:54:47 AM

@Ian I think some of the worker supporters need to read that
by elainekirk 8/19/2011 12:56:46 AM

the new educational material to teach the children about radiation www.mext.go.jp
by elainekirk 8/19/2011 12:57:24 AM

Here's a letter in the same issue of The Lancet www.thelancet.com also on worker protection. It makes this important point about Strontium-90 (90Sr) I didn't realize: "Chemically similar to calcium, 90Sr is a bone-seeker radioactive isotope and gets preferentially incorporated into bone, especially in areas of active bone remodelling. Once introduced into the body, 90Sr can accumulate and persist in skeletal tissues for decades."
by Ian 8/19/2011 1:00:10 AM

A single exposure of some radionuclides like cesium can thankfully pass through the body in a fairly short time, but it seems Strontium-90 can stick with you for decades!
by Ian 8/19/2011 1:03:14 AM

@Ian and cause leukemia at any age by damaging the bone mark.
by Edano 8/19/2011 1:03:20 AM

@Ian so they didn't collect from workers like they said was going to happen? :-(
by lillymunster 8/19/2011 1:06:21 AM

@elainekirk I can set that as a short article so we can tweet it.
by lillymunster 8/19/2011 1:07:21 AM

@Elaine, good point, they should see both of these papers! @Edano, eek! Yeah, that would be an obvious way for leukemia to happen. @lilly, seems that way! :(
Check out this differential radionuclide analysis that probably exposes Strontium-90 in deer antlers in the Chernobyl exclusion zone : www.youtube.com
by Ian 8/19/2011 1:07:44 AM

Added short article to the site on the stem cell collection. Spread the word. :-)
by lillymunster 8/19/2011 1:41:27 AM

US Military considered bugging out in early days of the nuclear disaster. search.japantimes.co.jp
by lillymunster 8/19/2011 2:29:03 AM

@lillymunster cant go causing fear and panic by protecting mere humaans
by elainekirk 8/19/2011 2:52:12 AM

@elainekirk It makes me wonder what was really going on in the US govt at home. Obama and the EPA were telling everyone it is just like a plane ride and to go busy themselves with something else. At the same time they were considering evacuating all the expats and most of the military.
by lillymunster 8/19/2011 3:02:36 AM

That story needs to make rounds in the US.
by lillymunster 8/19/2011 3:03:01 AM

@lillymunster ooo did you see what I found earlier
by elainekirk 8/19/2011 3:05:59 AM

@lillymunster emergency.cdc.gov I sent it to rockhopper thought it would give them something to base their 'requests' to the authorities on
by elainekirk 8/19/2011 3:07:43 AM

@lillymunster we are collecting decent doctors too there was one on a link here today english.aljazeera.net and there is twitter.com!/KamiMasahiro
by elainekirk 8/19/2011 3:22:16 AM